| ▲ | jacobgold 3 hours ago |
| If Waymo Premier includes an [EVASIVE MANEUVERS] button on the infotainment screen I'm in. I had a Uber driver block my Waymo at an intersection in SF some months ago just to be an asshole. Apparently some other people have been attacked and robbed while in a Waymo. Waymo should treat it like a security flaw that anyone can stop your car and there's nothing you can do about it. |
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| ▲ | askar_yu 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| I've had a few similar cases, often teenagers on bikes coming dangerously close (e.g. forcing waymo to sudden break) and last one one bicyclist just blocking me for 5-10 minutes in SF (also just to be an asshole), with a street full of cars behind all blocked. I called the "connect to support" button and they could not anything. This is the only negative experience I had with Waymo; and I am hope something is done to be able to swiftly respond to such cases (e.g. remote driver take over, or at least capture their video and work with police to punish them later) in order to deter them in the long term. |
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| ▲ | nradov 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | You've got to be kidding. SF police and prosecutors barely do anything about real crimes, never mind blocking a road for a few minutes. | | |
| ▲ | rsingel 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Actually blocking a road in SF can get you a felony conspiracy count with this DA, especially if they don't like your message San Francisco’s Case Against Pro-Palestinian Activists Who Blocked Bridge Heads to Jury | KQED https://share.google/4RstsRSYbqY2lEdhn | | |
| ▲ | freediddy 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | They blocked the Golden Gate Bridge which included ambulances, other emergency vehicles and thousands of people trying to get to work. I'm happy that the DA is throwing the book at them, I hope they bankrupt themselves trying to defend themselves and then spend a lot of time in jail. | | |
| ▲ | trhway 31 minutes ago | parent [-] | | While politically i'm on the opposite side of those guys, i do think that such severe prosecution is unwarranted and politically motivated (and may be intended to create chilling effect on all future protests no matter the cause) - blocking a road is a well established traditional form of protest which traditionally is expected to end with (if the judge is in a bad mood) something like disorderly conduct citation/fine, not anywhere close to felony. |
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| ▲ | liarpantsfire0 5 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | [dead] |
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| ▲ | saghm 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| As always, relevant xkcd: https://xkcd.com/1958/ |
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| ▲ | spprashant 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | We do have people with real incentive to not allow self-driving cars to succeed. | | |
| ▲ | sterlind 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I hope they succeed, for the sake of my mom who's legally blind and has dreamed about them for decades. but I'd be significantly more excited about self-driving if you could buy level-4 AVs that you can actually own. | | |
| ▲ | paulryanrogers an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Are cars really the best option? Could other public transit serve the same purpose? (I was once legally blind, still not a fan of cars myself. Though I understand the appeal when externalities are out of the picture.) | | |
| ▲ | michaelt 19 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Cars aren't the best option, but you can drop self-driving cars into an existing car-centric society one car at a time, with the car buyers paying for themselves. Making a car-centric society meaningfully less car-centric requires the enthusiastic support of that society, along with competent political leadership, and probably a fair chunk of taxpayer cash too. Suburbs with huge lots make for long walks to the transit stop - but densifying those suburbs is not easy. I don't own a car; I travel everywhere by bicycle and public transport - but the public transport I use was all built in the 1850s. Some time between then and now my society reorganised into a form that has a lot of difficulty delivering public transport projects. | |
| ▲ | drdaeman 13 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Surely, not until public transit networks covering literally everywhere regular roads can get you. Public transit is better, but building it outside of dense metro areas to the extent it becomes competitive is probably even more difficult than building a self-driving car. |
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| ▲ | cogogo an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Me too but this feels like a step in a progression to being able to rent/share them. | |
| ▲ | runarberg an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Can I ask why you prefer that some future technology will solve her problem when actual solutions (such as access vans; public transit; etc.) already exist? And before anyone points this out, if your local government does not offer these solutions that is a political choice of your local politicians. Plenty of local governments all over the world (even in dictatorships) are able to provide these, and changing the policy of your local government should in theory be easier then to roll out technology that does not exist. |
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| ▲ | saghm 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | At the cost of a traffic violation though? |
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| ▲ | dzonga an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | that xkcd is always funny - but there's a white lie in it e.g on motorcycles in areas where you are allowed to ride median. there's instances of drivers actively tryin' to kill you by swerving onto the median when they see you comin'. | | |
| ▲ | SyzygyRhythm an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Numerous times now, using Tesla FSD, I've found the car seemingly drifting from the center of the lane, only to have motorcycles buzz by at high speed on the opposite side. It's very polite toward motorcyclists. | |
| ▲ | nsvd2 an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | It surprises me that any municipality would make that legal, seems dangerous. | | |
| ▲ | HNisCIS an hour ago | parent [-] | | It's actually safer-ish. First: terms. Filtering is good, involves moving slowly through stopped traffic between the cars, usually under 20mph differential. Splitting is less good, that involves weaving between cars at speed and is actually dangerous. Some of the worst accidents are rear endings where drivers (not paying attention) just run you over while stopped in traffic. This is offset by accidents where people do the stuff you're worried about but when it's practiced correctly that's not as big of a risk and generally leads to less catastrophic accidents than rear endings. It's also just kinda dumb to force a class of vehicle that can get out of traffic jams to instead sit in them |
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| ▲ | tjoff 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I kind of assumed the car would be locked (from the outside)? Like most regular cars have the option to. |
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| ▲ | postalrat 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Do you think sitting inside you will be protected if someone has a gun? | | |
| ▲ | smlacy 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | So you're implying that someone in a locked Waymo was assaulted at gunpoint from outside the vehicle? These are rolling surveillance machines (in a good way?) and virtually every aspect of this would be caught on probably a dozen cameras. I'd be surprised if this hypothetical scenario has ever happened, and if it has, I'd love to see the evidence. | | |
| ▲ | lokar 30 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | I think people vastly overestimate the extent to which would be criminals think ahead to the likelihood of being caught and the severity of the punishment. | |
| ▲ | freediddy an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | You mean like this? https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/17/technology/trapped-inside... | |
| ▲ | ethbr1 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > virtually every aspect of this would be caught on probably a dozen cameras If only there were a widely available technology to conceal ones face... | |
| ▲ | vamos_davai 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Cameras aren't going to stop a crime in progress. | |
| ▲ | BoorishBears 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | You're laying on enough qualifiers that even a recent robbery of a Waymo is precluded, because (if we really want to victim blame) their window was down which is asking for it. But overall, not sure why the tone of these replies: then Venn diagram of "wants to rob people" and "cares Google's AV will record it" doesn't include as much overlap as you're implying. A Waymo has even been used as a getaway vehicle a few times now, once even successfully |
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| ▲ | nradov 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Obviously the Waymo Premier service should also include a nice handgun with the car. |
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| ▲ | wahnfrieden 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| When under attack, Waymo responds by stopping the car. |
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| ▲ | CamperBob2 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Waymo should treat it like a security flaw that anyone can stop your car and there's nothing you can do about it. What are they supposed to do? Go full Mad Max? That doesn't go over well on Reddit. Seriously, what can they do besides stop the car? |