| ▲ | iamniels 7 hours ago |
| I like that he comes up with new laws and regulations for AI companies. Can I suggest some more? - You shall not embed copyrighted material in your models. - You shall not bombard every little website in existence with 1 million scraping queries per day. - You shall not use your political influence to pump and dump your AI (or rocket?) company. - You shall not imperill the whole IT sector by buying all CPU and memory chips. These new rules will affect every society directly in a positive way. Thanks. |
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| ▲ | scarmig 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| "We need an approach to make sure AI doesn't destroy the world and wipe humanity to extinction." "Yeah, and quotas on web scrapers!" |
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| ▲ | bastawhiz 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | The Debts and Engagements Clause of article VI of the US constitution was kind of a weird little thing to stick in there, but like, it was important to a lot of people at the time and probably helped move the needle to get the thing ratified. | |
| ▲ | zozbot234 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > We need an approach to make sure AI doesn't destroy the world and wipe humanity to extinction. That's easy. Stop training your AIs on cheesy old sci-fi that talks about robot uprisings. In fact, maybe y'all should just stop talking about robot uprisings altogether. Putting a stochastic parrot in charge of an agentic function-calling REPL doesn't somehow make it super-dangerous, except to the extent that dumb mistakes might result in danger. And you can't prevent an AI from making dumb mistakes with burdensome regulation. | | |
| ▲ | scarmig 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yes, we get that if you assume there is zero existential risk from AI, then there is zero existential risk from AI. |
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| ▲ | avaer 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| DMCA-style fines should be retroactively + prospectively applied to copyrighted works reproduced by AI, paid for by the AI companies, paid out to the copyright holders whose work was used without permission. It would not be prohibitively hard to do the math on this. That would fix a lot of the problems with AI overnight, but it'll also never happen. |
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| ▲ | WhiteOwlLion 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Maybe if attribution is available. What do you do for the rest of the ingested content? I think based on the content itself, you assign percentages to the top 3 industries like a naics code. Then whatever Anthropic makes as gross or net, a percentage goes to each industry via assigned bank accounts or USDC addresses via solana or some scalable payment system. Could be the start of ubi or some sort of compensation for jobs displaced by ai usage. So every input gets tagged for categories and every output gets tagged for the same naics categories via federal law. |
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| ▲ | hashmap 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Trustbusting should absolutely be included as well. One of the biggest immediate threats is the concentration of wealth into a very tiny number of companies. |
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| ▲ | SilverElfin 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yep we need new laws for this. The current laws end up in years long lawsuits and no real change. |
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| ▲ | tptacek 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It is normal, expected, and healthy for stakeholders in a regulatory environment to offer proposals about regulations. What's unhealthy is the proposition that the deliberation process is so fragile that a stakeholder needs to cover every angle, lest they corrupt the outcome. |
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| ▲ | pseudalopex 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | It is normal, expected, and healthy to offer criticism of self interested proposals. And mock even. What is unhealthy is to imply someone said what they did not. | | |
| ▲ | tptacek 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | If that's what this is, a bank-shot snarky criticism of the proposal, fair enough. I read it instead as a criticism of a stakeholder having the temerity to make a proposal in the first place. It's not their job to anticipate and capture all your objections. That's your job! | | |
| ▲ | pseudalopex 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Everyone holds a stake in this discussion. And intellectual honesty is everyone's obligation. | | |
| ▲ | tptacek 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yes, that is a shorter way of saying what I just said. | | |
| ▲ | pseudalopex 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Amodei did not fail to anticipate and capture all objections. He dishonestly avoided well known objections. This was what you meant? | | |
| ▲ | tptacek 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | No, it is not his job to state all the objections you might have to his proposal! That's your job. | | |
| ▲ | pseudalopex an hour ago | parent [-] | | > all the objections you might have My comment before corrected this straw man clearly. |
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| ▲ | movealongnow 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | tptacek 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Sorry, audibly chuckling about the idea of software developers who consider themselves "everyday working class people". Keep it coming, Tom Morello. |
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| ▲ | ofjcihen 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | What you say is true but completely ignores the obvious ways in which what he is proposing benefits his company. Its like saying it’s normal for a taxi driver to drive people places while he’s got you handcuffed in the trunk. | | |
| ▲ | movealongnow 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | The person you are responding to is the taxi driver in your analogy. Temper expectations in kind. |
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| ▲ | Spartan-S63 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | How is the subject of potential regulation considered a stakeholder? | | |
| ▲ | zoogeny 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | That's a bit like asking how the defendant in a legal case is an interested party. Even if you think someone is guilty, it does make sense to allow them to at least submit their defense. And if they choose to use that time to advocate for their own promotion, let them. | |
| ▲ | akerl_ 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | They’re the most obvious stakeholder… the regulation is going to directly affect them. | | |
| ▲ | Spartan-S63 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | No, the public at large are the stakeholders. The enterprise is the subject of the regulation. | | |
| ▲ | sdenton4 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | "Stakeholder" literally means someone with a stake in the outcome, which is to say, those who will be affected by the decision. That can include a whole range of people+entities, including citizens (as a group) and the companies to be regulated. | | |
| ▲ | shimman 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yes and the public are the stake holders for regulations, not a private corporation good fucking lord. Are you so neoliberal brained that you can't realize how bad it is, both for society and democratic nations, to have a critical aspect of your government captured by undemocratic private interests? Regulatory capture is not a good thing. Companies that make money should have zero authoritative say, especially companies that pay for PACs to help sway elections in their favor: https://www.anthropic.com/news/donate-public-first-action | | |
| ▲ | tptacek 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Several people on this thread have aliased the terms "stakeholder" and "protagonist". |
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| ▲ | bashtoni 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| You missed a couple ofvery important ones: - Your AI data centres will run only on renewable energy - Your AI data centres will not use evaporative cooling |