Is there a meaningful Google-Apple boundary in operation?

They are buying the right to distill their own Gemini models and run them in their data centres (or at least data centres they control); unless I am missing something, this isn't going to be infrastructure that Google has operational control over.

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janalsncm 2 hours ago | parent [-]

If Apple is running the inference from Apple iPhones and Apple data centers then Apple has operational control. Google’s influence ends the moment they hand the weights over to Apple.

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impulser_ 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They are using Google Cloud.

https://security.apple.com/blog/expanding-pcc/?linkId=100000...

"Now, we are collaborating with Google and NVIDIA to run new Apple Intelligence workloads on Google Cloud, extending our industry-leading PCC privacy commitments to third-party data centers for the first time."

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materielle 22 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

That’s not so special, though? There’s a difference between Google infra running Google services.

Versus any F500 company running their services on GCP.

It’s a bit whacky to think about because Apple will operate Google owned software on GCP. But it should be sandboxed just the same.

I’m not making a normative privacy argument here. Just pointing out that this is cloud business as usual. Perhaps it’s interesting Apple is doing it, but basically everything else is already using either AWS or GCP at this point.

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dofm 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That is news — I guess not very surprising that they'd need more data centres than before.

But again there is no Apple-to-Google transfer in the inference in the sense of the comment I was originally replying to (I am not suggesting you're implying otherwise, obviously)

But I stand happily corrected where I said they aren't in the picture at all.

That is an interesting press release because it outlines what they would have had to do with any data centre they were outsourcing to.

	▲	impulser_ 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		This is probably why Google had to rent compute from SpaceX. They needed to free up NVIDIA GPUs for Apple so they probably moved internal workloads to SpaceX compute.

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dofm 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Right — I suppose I mis-phrased my first sentence a bit, because I guess it can be interpreted as me saying the boundary is blurred, when what I was trying to write is: in operation there is nothing crossing any boundary; Google are not in the picture.