| ▲ | WorldPeas 6 hours ago |
| Hopefully this new golden gate update is really the snow leopard everyone's been hoping for.. already exciting one can now (if only partially) disable liquid glass |
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| ▲ | whywhywhywhy 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Need a Leopard first, we’re firmly in Lion territory currently if we’re talking bad macOS version. |
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| ▲ | yreg 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Watching the platform state of the union it really seems we are getting a snow leopard right after the lion. Fingers crossed… |
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| ▲ | chatmasta 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Liquid Glass is fine for me since I put it in grayscale. I actually like it. I’m just talking about iOS though. Haven’t updated to Liquid (Gl)ass on macOS yet. |
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| ▲ | philistine 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | People talk about Liquid Glass as if it equal on all fronts. It's absolutely not. Apple knows which way their bread is buttered, that they can't mess up the iPhone. So Liquid Glass is fine on iOS. It's on Mac that it's a garbage fire of ridiculous design decisions. Still the best OS around, but it looks like it was made by idiots. | | |
| ▲ | badc0ffee 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | IMO it's not fine on iOS. It has the same visual busyness as on macOS. | | |
| ▲ | avarun 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Agreed, but seems like we're the odd ones out. I keep hearing how Liquid Glass is ok on iOS and terrible on macOS, but I actually think it's (slightly) better on macOS than on iOS. At least macOS has configurability to turn off all the transparency. iOS just looks bad no matter how you configure it right now. | | |
| ▲ | chatmasta 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Try messing with the settings more. Grayscale (or whatever it’s called) makes the transparency much more tolerable, or even _nice_, than with multi-color. It’s also more palatable on iOS because you only have one window open at a time. Many of the complaints around Liquid Glass on macOS are focused on window management and issues that only occur with multiple windows on screen simultaneously. |
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| ▲ | chatmasta 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Also weird how it’s all or nothing. Feels like it should just be a theme you choose for your OS. | | | |
| ▲ | sleepybrett 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Yeah it seems like they are finally reconsidering their position of unifying ios and macos somewhat. I wish they would revert settings on the mac back to it's old 'control panel' days. | |
| ▲ | sixothree 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I really think Mac OS is one of the worst operating systems to begin with. How is liquid glass going to make it worse. I will 100% leave the criticism of liquid glass on Mac OS to others. But Liquid Glass on iOS has been one of my favorite updates. I like the look and feel of it. They made some tangentially related changes that go too far. | | |
| ▲ | chatmasta 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Luckily for Apple, their primary competitor has managed to make their OS even worse. Windows becomes more unusable with every update, and on top of that, continues shoving telemetry and advertising into the OS. I installed windows on a laptop as an experiment and was shocked to see ads in the start menu. Who wants that?! The best OS is probably something between Ubuntu and macOS. But nothing beats macOS on default, works out of the box, secure and usable and integrated with ecosystems of daily life. | | |
| ▲ | sixothree 20 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I already agree with you on every single point. But Finder, holy heck is Finder awful. As someone who uses a filesystem as a first-class feature of an operating system, Finder it's one of the most horrible things about Mac OS. I say this as someone who uses and has owned too many Macs, but can just never make them my primary machine. I promise, I've spent the last 30 years trying to make them my main. |
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| ▲ | WorldPeas an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | the truth (that most people here would tell you) is that macos may be worse than linux, but it's generally understood, you can install companions for proprietary hardware much more easily and coworkers won't look at you with a blank stare when you explain that you're switching them all to it for mdm purposes (as they would with linux/windows). |
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| ▲ | WorldPeas an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | I'm in the same camp. I'm glad that I chose now to get my carrier-backed phone update because I wouldn't have been able to endure the keyboard still breaking and apps popping in like the interface is a windows ce skin for very long |
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| ▲ | 1-6 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| While I may hold an unpopular opinion, I really enjoy using liquid glass. It really makes an information-rich screen seem less cluttered. |
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| ▲ | thewebguyd 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I like it on iOS. It missed on macOS, but the new version looks much better. Bringing back the old style sidebar and actual toolbars again was the right choice. | |
| ▲ | nozzlegear 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I agree with you, it looks good on iOS and iPadOS. I'm indifferent toward it on macOS – you hardly ever notice it unless you live in the control center all day (IME anyway). | |
| ▲ | yreg 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I think it looks good (really good in some usecases!), but I don't like the problems it causes. - accessibility (hopefully improved soon) - floating buttons over content that doesnt need to scroll - switching light/dark when scrolling over content with borderline brightness | |
| ▲ | miladyincontrol 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I slightly prefer it, its nothing groundbreaking though. I just dont think it's the grand UX sin that some the most vocal critics love to preach. | |
| ▲ | nailer 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Elements underneath glass elements would add clutter |
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