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ElFitz 7 hours ago

I find it difficult to separate this piece’s tone from its content. The tone puts me off and makes it hard for me to judge it on its merits, despite some of the arguments seeming sound and well supported.

techblueberry 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Given the way tone has been intentionally abused, particularly in this industry, I’ll take a few f bombs and the truth.

aoeusnth1 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

What about all his other articles that had f-bombs and the predictive utility of used toilet paper?

GaggiX 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>I’ll take a few f bombs and the truth.

Don't want to ruin it but go read some old posts from the author about AI, the tone is the same and he is very much wrong.

nyeah 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Agreed. If the arguments seem sound and well supported, then all we can do is attack the tone.

ElFitz 6 hours ago | parent [-]

You can disagree. Sarcastically, or otherwise. But I think you may be reading more into my comment than I put there.

I’m not attacking the piece. I’m not saying it’s right. I’m not saying it’s wrong.

What I’m saying is, the tone made it hard for me to judge the arguments fairly, despite finding some of them convincing. And as much as I dislike it, persuasion does partly depend on how an argument is made.

nyeah 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Thanks, it's very clear what you're saying.

sumeno 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Ed's posts are peak preaching to the choir, they're usually factually correct but he is really bad at convincing anyone who doesn't already strongly agree with him.

JesseTG 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Have you seen his recent Bloomberg appearance? He's calm, collected, and matter-of-fact -- the complete opposite of how he presents himself on his newsletter and podcasts, but with the same argument. You wouldn't know from listening to him how spicy he usually is.

nyeah 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's tuned to the audience. Bloomberg was traditionally for people who actually wanted information. People who were fallible and had limited knowledge.

Of course that mentality is obsolete. Now we all have infinite access to perfectly correct information via the internet.

lowmagnet 6 hours ago | parent [-]

wow someone tell the philosophers this guy has figured out the knowledge problem!

d33d 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I dont really understand the criticism either way.

He's in the media business... its in his interest to amp things up.

JesseTG 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes, of course.

ElFitz 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Perhaps that’s it. I would tend to agree with his position, I think, but don’t appreciate being preached to. Even less so when I agree with what’s being said.

metadat 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Agreed. I am open to the possibility of the bubble bursting or whatever, but this piece is like 3,000 words and cites everything as evidence the sky is falling. It's just as bad as the pro-AI grifters, just in the other direction.

Does the truth normally lie somewhere in the middle of it all?

marcosdumay 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

At the /. times, there was somebody there with the best signature line. It was something like:

"Some people say the Sun sets at East, other people say it sets at West. The truth, of course, is certainly on the middle."

viccis 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>Does the truth normally lie somewhere in the middle of it all?

Usually does when you decide what constitutes extreme.

kunai 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Probably. Although I feel more inclined to forgive Ed in this case because it's sort of fighting fire with fire, the insanely hyperbolic and obscenely misleading drivel that's coming out of the most ardent AI boosters is continually unchallenged in the public eye. In a world where we had a more realistic view of AI/ML/LLMs, the limits to its capabilities, and the negative externalities of its widespread adoption in places where it quite frankly does not belong, then I'd be more critical of the Chicken Little sort of writing style

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