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LogicFailsMe 2 hours ago

So crazy question: take a dehumidifier, attach some solar panels, and deploy at scale for non-potable water suitable for crop irrigation anywhere that isn't a desert. Does it work? And if not, why?

LarsAlereon 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It takes too much energy and produces water too slowly to scale. In general any area with sufficient moisture in the air to explore this also has easier access to rain and ground water.

LogicFailsMe 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Great point, in my case in the PNW, the water from my local well is infested with manganese (as in clogging the household plumbing in the absence of a sediment filter) and other contaminants and the water company providing it is owned by private equity. Legally, I can drill my own well for non-potable irrigation, but god forbid I filter and/or chlorinate it for my own household use. So I end up considering options like this, thanks for debunking.

SoftTalker 44 minutes ago | parent [-]

You don't need to chlorinate water from your own well, unless maybe you have a cistern that you are filling for storage.

And who's going to know if you are drinking it or watering your garden?

LogicFailsMe a few seconds ago | parent [-]

At the very least I would UV disinfect anything coming from the ground and absolutely make use of a 20 micron sediment filter if only to address cognitive load: Another place, another time, coliform bacteria from the well. Super fun(not).

mrguyorama 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It "works" in the sense that this is what 99% of "Get water from air" scams are.

The reason it doesn't actually work is that it is extremely inefficient. Getting water to condense requires you to somehow reject massive quantities of heat. That's fundamental to physics.

Also, literally anywhere a dehumidifier is reasonably effective, is humid and usually doesn't have such dire water problems. Deserts have extremely low humidity and dehumidifiers working in a desert will produce very little water.

Even a good humidifier in a humid environment is burning KW to generate on the order of ten liters of water a day.

There are a couple places on earth that are essentially deserts but have an early morning humid fog roll through regularly, and those places figured out capturing that water in the air long long before we invented the refrigeration cycle.

It is literally cheaper to desalinate.

Maybe you could build giant greenhouses to fill with sea water and let the sun evaporate the water and collect that with a dehumidifier? Still absurdly inefficient. Water has such an obscene specific capacity for heat that any thermal avenue of separating it from something else will use immense energy.

casey2 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

What do you mean work? No, because there is no single dehumidifier on the market that will get you enough water, so you are out $80 grand, you could have just paid for water delivery.