Proton, Copilot, and literally this single issue are what pushed people to Linux. If I were in charge there would be a team devoted to fixing this a decade ago.

WSL singlehandedly stemmed much of tide of developers moving away from Windows, but WSL native filesystem performance gave devs that magical experience when they boot into Linux the first time and see that the filesystem doesn't have to be ass. There's always been hacks around this, but for many devs the easiest hack was to ditch Windows.

They should have moved heaven to fix this on day one, there's really no engineering excuse. Linux is open source.

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skissane 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Proton, Copilot, and literally this single issue are what pushed people to Linux.

This isn't the only issue. I think another big issue is pushing more and more integration with Microsoft cloud services (e.g. Microsoft accounts), advertising, etc, which Microsoft has made increasingly difficult to opt-out of. They could fix every single technical limitation anyone has ever complained about, but if they don't change their corporate culture on forced cloud/advertising/etc, many won't care about those fixes.

	▲	overgard 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Yeah, my switch to Linux and Mac for most things is more about just finding Microsoft's policies so obnoxious and hostile that I just won't deal with them anymore, even if I have to deal with more technological hassles. The only reason I haven't completely nuked my Windows partition is because I can at least use Rufus to turn off the worst stuff. But frankly, the amount of software that keeps me on Windows is dwindling fast, and every time Windows update resets my browser to fucking Edge or signs me into a Microsoft account system wide without my consent I just get that much closer. It feels like malware at this point.

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keithnz 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Just a comment on Proton... I've recently shifted to linux (garuda ) as a native OS for gaming (still dual booting, but linux is my main OS now, I used to run linux VMs in windows). My experience with Proton is that only ~30% of my games work out of the box. Some games like dota2, and factorio are native linux and work MUCH better (faster/higher fps) in linux. A bunch of windows games work fine, other's semi work, and I have to spend a bunch of time investigating why I'm getting the issues I'm getting. Others just aren't really supported (it seems anti cheat software is a big blocker) or I just can figure out what is going wrong quick enough that I just abandon it. Overall, everything seems better in linux world, everything is really snappy. I'm hoping more game companies treat linux as a first class citizen as more people switch. It is definitely a great platform for gaming but really just needs game creators to ensure their games work, ideally native, but even just using Proton would be good.

	▲	Fire-Dragon-DoL an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Isn't Garuda an arch distribution? It could be that (less common, so more issues). Running SteamOS likely has better chance of running games, but yeah the linux experience is not streamlined at times (but it is functional!)
	▲	suddenlybananas 24 minutes ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		What games don't work? I've never had a game I wanted to play but couldn't due to being on Linux.
	▲	jauntywundrkind 4 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		It's very very rare for me that games don't work. It's almost all competitive games, where the game specifically does not allow anti-cheat. There's very little fiddling around or configuring. 30% sounds god awful terrible; my success rate definitely >85%. In the rare case something doesn't work right away, https://www.protondb.com/ usually has advice in the top or second comment that works great. I don't really think the windows vs Linux native debate is worth pursuing. Windows games run better than they do on Windows 4 times out of 5, and that's more than good enough.

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Kenji 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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evanjrowley 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Perhaps you meant Pluton and not Proton? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25191319

	▲	oofbaroomf 7 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Proton is a tool Valve made, based on Wine, to easily run Windows games, on Linux [0]. GP meant Proton. [0]: https://github.com/valvesoftware/proton