Try selling used Apple products which you can on any website or marketplace online, except Apple will contact Shopify and they will unpublish products without even telling you.

You used to be able to install custom Shopify apps on your own store, now they make you jump through hoops. Their ideal situation is an Apple like walled garden where you can only install apps from their store. Had a friend trying to vibecode a custom Shopify app so he could replace one from the App Store that was running him $250/m. It was so confusing that he just gave up. I’m trying to get him to switch to an open-source alternative.

Try selling Vape products or adult products and you’ll see you don’t really control the software. Selling used Apple products, vapes, and adult products is completely legal. Yes Stripe and PayPal can stop you from accepting payments for those products. But why is my business software doing the same?

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gpm 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Shopify not being willing to fight battles to keep supporting stores that other people don't want them to isn't exactly the same as them choosing what you can sell... Though I guess I see some similarity.

> I’m trying to get him to switch to an open-source alternative.

Well if you want an argument in favor between terrible support, glitchy software, huge price hikes, and so on we aren't particularly happy with Shopify either...

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paulddraper an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> Shopify not being willing to fight battles to keep supporting stores that other people don't want them to isn't exactly the same as them choosing what you can sell...

It is the same.

Or rather the latter is inclusive of the former.

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theturtletalks an hour ago | parent [-]

Exactly, Shopify as a business can do what it wants. But I will never let software manage my business that I don’t have control over.

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jeromegv 10 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Even if you have your own stack for software, you still need someone for payments, and that's where it hits you. Shopify was letting Kanye sells nazi merch, they don't give a crap for most things unless it's trademark issues.

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hamdingers 27 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

> I will never let software manage my business that I don’t have control over.

I can't imagine this is actually possible in 2026 unless your business is a something like a cash-only lemonade stand.

	▲	theturtletalks 14 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Opensource is the only way to free sellers from propeitary SaaS and marketplace middlemen. I’m actually working on building an opensource Shopify for every vertical from restaurants to gyms to hotels.

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daveguy 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

So... They're not choosing what you can sell. They're letting arbitrary third parties choose what you can sell? That seems worse.

	▲	embedding-shape 43 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Indeed it's worse, and apparently Valve/Steam is the only one who seems to care about something resembling freedom to sell legal things, even if we might subjectively disagree.

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Shank an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> But why is my business software doing the same?

Shopify runs a payment network called Shop Pay, and that network has relationships with the credit card companies like Visa. Honestly how do you expect to transact in goods that almost nobody will do business in? Even if you have the listing, what supported Shopify payment system will do the business?

	▲	theturtletalks 42 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Yes I know about Shop Pay (it’s a wrapper around Stripe). And just like Stripe and PayPal, Shop Pay gives Shopify the right to stop users from selling certain products. I’m talking about connecting Shopify to authorize.net (credit card gateway) and a custom high risk processor. In that case, we are not using Shop Pay. But Shopify can still unpublish and restrict what you sell. That’s the issue. No one is saying Shopify has to allow sellers to sell high risk items under Shop Pay. It’s when you connect to a different payment processor.

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ksec an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

>Try selling Vape products or adult products

Are these legal in the place they are selling? Or is it against shopify TOS to do so? These two I am not surprised.

>will unpublish products without even telling you.

Giving some benefits of doubt here first. May be someone could explain the rationale behind it. Because on the surface this seems wrong.

	▲	theturtletalks an hour ago \| parent [-]
		As long as you get a high risk payment processor, you can sell these products in the US. But even when you connect this high risk processor to Shopify, they can still stop you from selling certain products. Payment processors are supposed to handle that and if my payment processor is ok with it, who made Shopify the judge, jury, executioner? Why is a software that manages my product catalog and orders deciding what I can sell? If I'm selling something illegal, my payment processor will handle it or the wronged company can sue me. Shopify shouldn't be deciding this. I mean take a look at how peptides are exploding. It's legal to sell them for research purposes, but you can't on Shopify. Unless you are on Plus and have an account manager and go thru backchannels. Literally Shopify picking winners instead of letting the market do it's job.