I couldn't imagine working remote straight out of college. I'm very glad I work remote now though.

makeitdouble 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's hard to really compare when we(the pre-internet generation) were raised in an offline environment from the start.

At my current job we see "junior" devs with 3 years of GitHub contributions and fully in production personal projects. Those obviously learned through a different path that what most had 20 years ago, but they're definitely not an exception either, and I genuinely think there is an adaptation process that many are missing.

Perhaps everyone can't follow that path. but not everyone could follow the previous one either. We'll probably only know when the dust fully settles.

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flextheruler 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yeah it's awful and the lack of any sympathy from people further along in their career with kids made it even worse. Everyone thinks it's great but I literally developed depression and anxiety from isolation.

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makeitdouble 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I feel for your experience. To note, as a field we've long been one of the worst when it comes to depression and mental health (from the top of my head, we're par with teachers ?)

It was brutal before any glimpse of remote work, open offices didn't help in any way.

Some saw remote work as a way out of the quagmire, others like you had it worse.

PS: participation in local communities would benefit both the lonely people and the community.

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grolingor 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Should those other people be made to RTO and spend less time around their kids, to fill in your isolated lifestyle?

	▲	bzhang255 2 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Isn't that kind of how society works? i.e. If a senior employee benefitted from having close mentorship and a strong social network when they were a junior, then they may wish to pay it forward by being present and mentoring juniors now that they're a senior.
	▲	nhinck2 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		Yeah probably, the outlook for their kids ain't looking so great.
	▲	Jtarii an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Yes.

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rglover 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I did that and it was rough at first. Turned down the internship -> full-time option in favor of freelancing so I could do the level of work I wished.

15 years later...there are good parts and bad parts. Great for focus and getting real work done, terrible for feeling like you have any real connection to your peers (even if/when I went to meetups, conferences, etc, you always feel like an "outsider"). Eventually embraced the "lone wolf" aspects and learned alternatives to socializing, but yeah, that first lap around the track was brutal.