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el_benhameen 2 hours ago

Curious if anyone has had hair issues while taking it. I’m aware that there’s no positive evidence for an effect, but there is an at least plausible mechanism. I’ve gone through two periods where I took it and liked the effects, but felt like I shed way more hair and stopped due to that.

madjam002 18 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

After 2 weeks of taking creatine I had an episode of SVT whilst working out (HR around 230). Never had it before (that I know of). Since then I need to take medication to stop it from happening again whilst working out. Haven't taken creatine since.

Probably completely unrelated but worth mentioning.

zug_zug an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Do you work out?

If so creatine is supposed to help people push themselves harder and thus build more muscle. As a side-effect of intense exercises you'll create more testosterone. Increased testosterone leads to balding.

noisy_boy an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Sometimes when I see muscular guy with a head full of hair, I wonder what is counteracting that increased testosterone.

vkazanov an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Sometimes people just have good hair and spend a lot of time in the gym.

Even early 90s famous era mass monsters were not all bald.

Baldness is known to be related to a bunch of things: testosterone levels, something to do with blood delivery to the scalp, deeper genetic factors.

Surprsingly, for some of the cases scalp massage is known to help.

stefs an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

increased testosterone from working out is probably around 10-30% long time, which is a far lower variance than natural level variance in healthy adults. i think i heard from several (claimed natural) strength and bodybuilding athletes that their total testosterone is at the lower end of the scale.

that said, natural free test levels are at a fraction of what enhanced pro bodybuilders tend to supplement, and there are mass monsters with hair. cutler, yates, ferrigno and golden era bodybuilders like schwarzenegger, zane, columbu all had full heads of hair.

vkazanov 41 minutes ago | parent [-]

Yeah, wanted to point this out. I have mid-range natural test levels, more than my dad, and don't have any signs of balding. My dad lost half of his hair by the time i was born.

Steroid consumers have al least ten times my leves, and while this is a factor indeed, in is not necessarily decisive.

amelius an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Not what you want to hear, but genes, probably ...

AngryData an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Yeah I think that is the biggest factor. I got family members that are built like brick shithouse from a life since childhood of physical labor that still have their hair into their 70s, there is no way they weren't maintaining high levels of testosterone their entire life but it didn't seem to matter.

globular-toast an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Probably. Money seems to help too, though. A few Hollywood actors have miraculously reversed their male pattern baldness.

Auracle an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Hair transplants are probably affordable enough for 90% of people on HN.

larrywright an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Along with at least one tech billionaire.

Taek an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Probably some combination of Minoxidil, Finastride, PRP injections, and hair transplants.

mohamedkoubaa an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Scalp massages. No seriously

maiti_ma 40 minutes ago | parent [-]

What kind of massages? I'm curious of this really works.

appplication an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It’s not increased testosterone in general that causes balding, it’s increased concentrations/sensitivity of testosterone byproducts in the hair follicles. There is no correlation between testosterone itself and baldness.

vkazanov an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

The effect of creatine is measurable but in no way is related to balding.

Using steroids does have the effect. And a bunch of others, most of them unhealthy.

These things might look correlated as steroid ppl often consume creatine as well as some other things.

shoobiedoo an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I bumped mine from 5g daily to 15 and noticed way less anxiety. It's a must have for me now. Besides that is the regular benefit of being able to squeeze out a few more reps during my kettlebell workouts

jliptzin 40 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

No but every time I try to take creatine supplements I get heart palpitations. Everyone says I am crazy and that it’s impossible but I have proof from my Apple Watch, one time it was so bad it said I had atrial fibrillation. I went to a cardiologist and he acknowledged it is a possibility but he hasn’t seen it before.

almost_usual 33 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I take 10g a day, have for a couple years now. Started mostly because of training but it does wonders in sleep deprived states.

5g would probably be fine without a lot of training ( I train about 10hrs a week). Seems like I need 10g to both get the physical and mental benefits, especially during peak training blocks (running 50-60 mpw with strength training).

RHSman2 36 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

My personal experience has been dramatic:

5/6g a day.

Very demanding job with lots of ‘thinking’

3 times a week gym

Pre creatine I would struggle to maintain ability to do the hard thinking around 3pm. Just like, fog or I could feel my brain didn’t have capacity.

Now, I am capable till the end of the day. Feels like a well trained athlete at the end of a game being able to deliver rather than just holding on.

calibas an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There's evidence creatine may raise DHT levels, and DHT causes hair thinning: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19741313/

daneel_w an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I think male baldness is a bit more complex than creatine->DHT->loss of hair.

But if you want to go down that road, there's also indications that the oil in pumpkin seeds reduce the enzymatic process that turns testosterone into DHT - so just eat some pumpkin seeds with your creatine and the problem goes away! It's that simple!!!

medler an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is one study with 20 subjects and has never been replicated. There have since been multiple studies and reviews that have found no effect on hair loss or follicle health

stefs an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

that study is widely regarded as unreliable and outdated.

softwaredoug 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I take 10 g a day and have maybe noticed muscles seem to bulk more after a hard strength workout. But other than that I feel about the same.

YZF 13 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

More water in the muscles is another effect. Also placebo. I do notice I'm a bit heavier when I'm on creatine.

vkazanov 38 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Creatine is known to give you some more energy. Like, 3%-5%. That's just an extra rep, hardly noticeable.

koinedad 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Interesting, I also noticed thinning

globular-toast an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The plausible mechanism is for male pattern baldness, but increased shedding is not MPB. MPB shrinks the size of the hairs on the top of your head over time. It isn't really affected by shedding which is normal and happens to everyone.

brador an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Same. Not clumps, but a definite uptick in hair shed. Stopped taking it.