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amazingamazing 17 minutes ago

I never want to hear from developers again that they are not susceptible to marketing. I see meet ups specifically about Claude often.

Modern tupperware party.

A colleague was convinced Claude is better so we played a game. We used the claude code harness and I implemented some prs they needed with gpt5.5 and opus4.7 and asked them to identify which came from which only from the code.

Couldn’t tell.

rjh29 a few seconds ago | parent | next [-]

It's crazy hearing devs on this site claim Claude is 10x better than all other AI solutions. I think it is fomo. Claude $LATEST_VERSION is perceived as the best and anything else is "missing out". Same reason people buy the 4090 and 5090 cards - overpriced but they must have the "best".

I've been using Google and now DeepSeek v4 and I am having absolutely no problems and it's a fraction of the cost. I'd love for Claude to be 10x better but it just isn't, for my use case anyway.

bilekas 12 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think for developers the distinction is that ChatGPT is this commercial all in one solution for normies and Claude is specific for developers, in reality as you say the results for normal developers is indistinguishable.

jnovek 4 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I can’t tell the difference between code written in vim or vs code but it matters substantially to the person writing the code. There’s stuff beyond just the output that goes into tool choice.

brookst 9 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is like saying you gave a Taylor Swift fan sheet music from 1984 and from Michael Jackson’s thriller and they couldn’t tell the difference.

I have a strong affinity for Claude Code because of the interaction experience and overall tone / vibe / process. I am 100% willing to believe the code it produces is identical or possibly less good than Codex.

I enjoy working with Claude in a way I just don’t get from OpenAI. YMMV, you may feel just the opposite. But it’s a mistake to look at the produced code as the only dimension of these products.

amazingamazing 5 minutes ago | parent [-]

This is my point. The harness itself creates feelings that are positive, but the artifacts produced are similar.

It is like the employee who is slightly worse but is a brownnoser getting promoted more often.

And what do you know, that is what is happening. It is like the coke commercial with the nice music and beautiful person in the back.

mewpmewp2 2 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

The creative output and time to direct, to deliver due to the flow will also be different.

And it really depends on the task. Is it a typical well defined bug, or is it simpel CRUD. Or does it require research, combining different sources of data in a complex and creative ways.

This is also why benches never show reality, and the only real understanding comes if you actually try to build something.

hgoel a minute ago | parent | prev [-]

But what they're pointing out is user experience, not marketing.

mewpmewp2 3 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I use both, enough to reach Codex highest personal sub limits and Claude is stronger to me specifically because of how the flow of building feels. So the PR for any random task would be irrelevant to me.

regluous 14 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Everyone can be propagandised. It's a matter of pushing the right buttons.

ejejje1 11 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Not everyone one. Some are very strong mentally and not so easily malleable.

I don’t think that applies to most on here tho.

jnovek 5 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Seeing yourself as immune to propaganda probably makes you more susceptible to propaganda.

site-packages1 9 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

I RAN to downvote this dunning kruger of a comment.

ejejje1 8 minutes ago | parent [-]

You ran nowhere. I bet you’re out of shape.

lpcvoid 8 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

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melenaboija 7 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yes, which means that in the long run this looks ugly.

So much faith and money in this idea, and seeing how fragile it is, does not look good.

holistio 10 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Been to an Anthropic event in Paris last summer.

They served caviar. It probably had good ROI.

tailscaler2026 5 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

for me personally it's two reasons:

1) Brockman ($25M) and Altman ($1M) both personally donated to Trump/MAGA.

2) Anthropic pushed back against DOD's demand for unrestricted use of AI to kill people while OpenAI eagerly said "please use ours!".

echelon 11 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Couldn’t tell.

I can tell. It's night and day.

Last year I used a bunch of models to try to generate Rust code. They all sucked.

This February I tried again and used Claude to generate Rust code. I have never been more stunned in my life. It's just as good as I am, and 30x faster. No fluff, the code is verbatim just as I would have written.

I then tried other models. Total disappointment.

I've continued to repeat this experiment. Opus is the only model that can write Rust reasonably.

Codex produces junk to this day. It passes variables that aren't needed, it abuses pointers, it creates overly verbose monstrosities...

I don't want any single company to win. I want OpenAI to be competitive. I want open source models to win. But right now, Claude Code and Opus are it.

cooper_ganglia 9 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Claude has an "End Conversation" tool that it can trigger on it's own, forcing your interaction to a close based on it's own feelings towards the conversation.

I have no idea how this wasn't the end of Anthropic's positive public perception.