There are millions of people making music in an ever-expanding set of genres. The idea that no one is making 80s or 90s style music is absurd. I guess she can listen to slob but maybe just look around a little instead?

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hombre_fatal an hour ago | parent | next [-]

It's not just look around a little. It's look around a lot. It's spend all your music-listening time looking around.

Have the ick for AI-gen, fine. But dismissing the things it solves puts you in a position where you'll never understand other people.

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glitcher an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I agree with you when it comes to my own process of finding new music, but the example given was a lot more specific than just 80s/90s music. Who’s to say that person didn’t do extensive searches before using Suno? Sounds more like the classic discoverabity problem big platforms continue to do poorly with to me. But I agree with the sentiment, great stuff by real artists is out there if you’re able to find it.

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harimau777 5 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Where would you look around?

Previously web search, YouTube, and Reddit would have been my go to but they have all been enshittified.

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_carbyau_ an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> just look around a little instead?

This seems harder than you suggest. I suggest things to my streaming platform and it reverts to what I call "cruisy shit" within 5-10 songs as though it's playing a game of "6 degrees" between my chosen starting point and what it wants to play.

For me, "The Algorithm To Engage" is more of a "the beatings will continue until morale improves Algorithm".

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echelon an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> The idea that no one is making 80s or 90s style music is absurd.

The idea that only humans can make music is absurd.

> I guess she can listen to slob but maybe just look around a little instead?

The idea that AI generated = slop is absurd.

Humans create just as much, if not more slop. Look at 99% of "professional" output in creative fields. It's awful.

A human with taste steering AI tools can be better than a "classical" human with hard skills but no taste.

The old world is going to be run over:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWZYP5jn5w4

Completely. Run. Over.

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zfoong 42 minutes ago | parent [-]

Rather than genuinely enjoying a well-made/actually entertaining AI content, people are just gonna blindly hate on anything AI-generated.

	▲	harimau777 4 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Until AI companies pay for all the content that they stole, I think that is a reasonable response.
	▲	platevoltage 26 minutes ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		As they should. AI can't create art, because AI doesn't have a sense of expression.

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giancarlostoro 40 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

"Slob" / "slop" is thrown around so much I don't take anyone seriously who drops that word unless the output matches the commentary. There's definitely a lot of trash AI stuff out there don't get me wrong, but there's also insanely high quality AI generated things out there. Hell, I've sent people songs made in Suno, and they were surprised to learn that those were AI generated. If you open suno and type in "90s jazz song" then yeah, you're likely going to get a bit of generic AI slop. If you get into specifics, voice style, instrument types, how they're played, which chords, etc. You can get some insanely high quality music. Not only that but Suno has a whole DAW style extension to it they call Suno Studio which is very powerful, you can get AI stems, you can add your own voice.

Someone could get studio quality tracks for $10 a month, and add their own vocals and have a high quality sounding song. Is it slop if you pour hours of work into it tweaking every detail? At that point using a DAW is slop then (which I'm sure some people hate music made that way, but a lot of music is made this way).

	▲	taneq 10 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I’ve been thinking the same thing about AI artwork (as opposed to “chat pls make me a funny picture” and seeing what comes out, although there’s some increasingly interesting things coming out of that approach). There’s often an insane amount of work going into the guts of the image generation pipeline. Sure, it’s not pencil-on-paper drawing things but to me, art is about creating and exploring. All the same vitriol was directed toward cameras, audio synthesisers, 3D rendering, Photoshop, digital cameras, etc. The hate is not about the technique, it’s about someone else getting the same results “easier” with a different workflow.
	▲	platevoltage 30 minutes ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		I just don't get it. Music isn't just what comes out of the speaker. There are artists, with lives and influences behind the music. There is personal expression in the lyrics. Even when the artist chooses to remain anonymous, or they choose to not have lyrics at all, there is still something personal behind it. A DAW is just a tool, and it's a tool that can be used badly, for example, over produced metal with quantized and sample replaced drums. Sure, AI can be a tool for music production just like a DAW can, but when it crosses the line into, lets call it "vibe-produced" music, it is indeed slop, and deserves to be referred to as such.