| ▲ | fzeroracer 3 hours ago |
| I don't think it's much of a wonder why people are turning to 'anti-tech extremism' as everything around them suddenly is no longer consumer priced. Seeing computing rise anywhere from 1.5x to 2x in pricing while the job market is fucked is enough to make me extremely bitter. |
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| ▲ | pesus 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Exactly. Not only have the prices gone up, they've gone up for no real reason other than some CEOs are attempting to take over society. The average person isn't even seeing much of the upside of modern technology anymore, just the downsides. Gadgets no longer get cheaper over time, experiences no longer improve over time, and every new startup or innovation seems to be used to make their lives worse, whether directly or indirectly. The average person does not really benefit from recent AI tech - and the minuscule benefits they may possibly sometimes get are easily outweighed by the negative effects. Say what you will about the morality of bread and circuses, but making them increasingly out of reach seems like a very bad idea to me. |
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| ▲ | charcircuit 28 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | >The average person does not really benefit from recent AI tech ChatGPT and Gemini offer enormous consumer value for free. | |
| ▲ | ericd 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | >The average person does not really benefit from recent AI tech Really? Most people I know seem to have found the chatbots tremendously helpful. It's much faster than researching via a bunch of google searches. | | |
| ▲ | Corence 10 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Google search is worse because of recent AI tech flooding the internet with misinformation and low quality articles. | |
| ▲ | mrhottakes an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Most people I know don't use chatbots and don't find them helpful. | | |
| ▲ | kotaKat an hour ago | parent [-] | | And can 'most people' even afford most of these services? Having seen some people's spend, even a $200/month plan has me questioning why I'd spend $200/month on Anthropic products when $200/month would be a substantial chunk of my housing as a blue-collar class IT worker just to survive. | | |
| ▲ | ericd 32 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | You don't need a $200/mo plan, that's for people chewing through Opus tokens with multiple instances of Claude Code going in parallel. My impression is that most people just use the free ChatGPT tier, or $20/mo at most. | |
| ▲ | LtWorf an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | I own an apartment, my heating/electricity/water/internet/repairs costs ~400$/month. |
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| ▲ | LtWorf an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | My salary hasn't been increased to pay for this extra helpfullness. | |
| ▲ | wao0uuno 35 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | >It's much faster than researching via a bunch of google searches. Ah yes that's certainly worth more than a steady job market, low inflation and affordable goods. Get real. | | |
| ▲ | ericd 26 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I think I'm already real? The main reasons for inflation, outside of computer components, are related to the fact that we're near the end of a long-term debt cycle. Look at demographics and monetary/fiscal policy. This is just the scapegoat du jour for long-term structural issues. Stability in the job market seems to mean stagnation in the long term. That's fine in the short run, but eventually, you're Germany/France and major pillars of your economy are cornered and in trouble. Personally, I think the move is total at-will employment paired with UBI rather than the heavy-handed employer regs that those countries have for stability, and I think that's where we're going to have to go if job losses really start materializing. |
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| ▲ | coffeeindex 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Doesn’t help that prices are skyrocketing because of circular investing and spending between companies trying to amass as many data centers as possible to cash in on AI hype. These same companies keep pushing this idea that everything you know and do is worthless in the face of prompt-fu and that you have to use these platforms they’re pushing or you’re NGMI. |
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| ▲ | babelfish 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | What does this have to do with the steam deck? | | |
| ▲ | doubled112 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | PC hardware like the Steam Deck is more expensive due to demand from AI hype. | |
| ▲ | aquova 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Where do you think all the supply that the Steam Deck was previously leveraging went? | |
| ▲ | mrhottakes an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The insides of the Steam Deck have a lot of the same bits and bobbins and thingamajigs that go inside AI data centers. | |
| ▲ | yieldcrv 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | RAM is expensive and there is scarcity in getting a supply of it = all consumer electronics will cost more |
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| ▲ | idle_zealot 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I'm glad at least this happened after consumer electronics plateaued. I don't know about you but in my estimation a 5 year old phone and mid-tier gaming PC are holding up fine. The limiting factor in features is more crappy software than hardware. Unless you're looking to run local AI stuff, I guess? But I don't figure the anti-tech crowd would want to do that. Give us replaceable batteries and the right to update our own operating systems and I think we can survive unaffordable RAM for decades if it comes to it. |
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| ▲ | Benanov 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | My thirteen year old PC is holding up fine. I've replaced the disk (condition of me getting it; it was a disused Windows machine), installed Ubuntu, Debian, then Kubuntu, and upgraded the video card, but beyond that...basically as it shipped from Dell. The last BIOS update was 2013. | | |
| ▲ | LtWorf 43 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I have a similar machine. The only issue is that I haven't bought a video card and the integrated Intel is starting to show its age by not supporting Vulcan. |
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| ▲ | bcrosby95 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I'm completely on board with your view, I'm still rocking a 1080ti. But I'd also like to buy my kids a gaming computer someday, and I don't know when that will be, especially with prices being what they are. It took a shockingly long amount of time for a graphics card to come out at 1080 performance that costed less than a 1080. |
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| ▲ | bluescrn 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I’m much more concerned by the skyrocketing cost of housing, energy, food, and transport than the cost of tech luxuries. If I never buy another GPU or console again, there’s more than enough quality gaming for several lifetimes available on older hardware and often very inexpensively. |
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| ▲ | wtetzner 14 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | > older hardware and often very inexpensively What makes you think demand won't drive those prices up as well? And this is more than just gaming, the Steam Deck prices are increased due to the increase cost of general components like RAM, which impacts machines used to do work as well. | |
| ▲ | everdrive 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | >I’m much more concerned by the skyrocketing cost of housing, energy, food, and transport than the cost of tech luxuries. I'm with you, but given that I have no control over any of them I wouldn't have minded that my luxury fun was still cheap. About a decade or so ago, I remember saying something like "We're in an odd period historically: if you except housing, healthcare, and education, everything else is _stunningly_ cheap by historical norms." I wasn't trying to discount the importance of those things, but it felt like there was at least some relief among the rising costs there. Now, it seems like "everything else" has caught up and it's simply that everything is expensive. | |
| ▲ | jdprgm an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The difference is those have largely all been steadily increasing every year for decades. Tech and entertainment (streamers etc) have been one of the few bright spots you could point to as something that would usually improve yearly. At this point there is hardly anything left and I think it leads to some pretty dark scenarios when we have a society where we have somehow decided: fuck it, almost everything gets worse for almost all of you every single year. | |
| ▲ | tavavex 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Those same components are contained in tech everything, not just "luxuries". If you want to stick with your current hardware, you just need to hope that your existing setup will outlast you and never have any part failures. |
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| ▲ | threetonesun 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Inflation adjusted gaming is about the same as its always been. Hurts to see prices go up but it happened during the SNES days too, and the job market was more fucked then. |
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