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qsi 5 hours ago

The Tesla Model S Plaid has similar horsepower (1020 vs 1035), more torque (1050 lb ft vs 730), faster 0-60 (2.1 vs 2.4s), higher top speed (200 vs 193 mph), more range (358 vs 280 mi).

For roughly 17% of the price.

And it looks the same.

What an abomination!

(You can probably find similar Chinese EVs that also outperform similarly.)

2III7 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The Model S is also a plasticky shitbox from the inside. This Ferrari will be colossally better in terms of build quality, ergonomics and handling compared to the S.

epolanski an hour ago | parent [-]

Sure, but his point stands.

There is really no way to justify the price tag. With combustion engines at least you knew that you had an extremely rare feat of engineering.

l23k4 16 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I'll buy this car, mostly because I like the interior.

The fact that I like the interior and I can't get it for less money is what justifies the price tag.

freefaler 32 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

The price is the reason. Veblen explains that.

Buying an ultra-premium EV Ferrari over a faster, cheaper is a evolutionary broadcast (Costly Signaling Theory), proving the buyer possesses such immense excess wealth that they have no practical need to optimize their dollar-to-spec ratio. Everybody drives Teslas, the highly exclusive Ferrari satisfies a deep human drive for elite group differentiation (Social Identity Theory) while perfectly mirroring the buyer's aspirational ego and public identity (Self-Congruity Theory). Ultimately, this choice optimizes for intense internal sensory and emotional pleasure rather than objective efficiency (Hedonic Consumption Theory) by making (at least at the beginning) the owner feel that he is a super special dude.

onlypassingthru 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

And the Model S is no longer in production due to poor sales. How many of these $650k family sedans could Ferrari possibly move?

l23k4 8 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Bizarre comparison.

Who is the customer for a Model S? What fancy full-size sedan would they otherwise buy?

Certainly not the person who'd buy a BMW 7er or a Mercedes S-class. Model S does not offer the basic comforts required to compete in this segment.

Perhaps the person who'd buy a BMW 5er or a Mercedes e-class? Possibly, but the Model S is still an uncomfortable, noisy and cheap feeling clunker compared to those two.

It's not like the full-size luxury sedan market is doing too bad. We've got at least:

  Audi: A8
  BMW: 7er, i7
  Mercedes: S-class, EQS
  Porsche: Panamera, Taycan (sort of)
  Rolls Royce: Phantom, Ghost
  Bentley: Flying spur
qsi 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Ah I see...

Apparently they're aiming to produce about 2500-3000 Luces (Luci?) a year, and they're building about 14,000 cars total annually. So not too many in keeping with their scarcity strategy. That has worked great for them so far, but I doubt they can replicate it with the Luce.

decimalenough 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Probably more than you'd think. Lamborghini is selling around 5000 butt-ugly Urus SUVs per year.

nicce 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Well, at least Ferrari has hopefully higher quality materials.

federicosimoni 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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