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d3Xt3r 2 hours ago

Cool, but I think they're holding themselves back with that weird form-factor. I would've preferred if they'd included a full QWERTY keyboard, like the the GPD Pocket 4[1] or the GPD Win Mini. With a proper keyboard, I could write code on the go, easily edit files, navigate a terminal and mess with things... and do so much more in general.

Also, 8GB RAM is barely enough these days, whereas the GPD comes with upto 64GB RAM - and an X86 CPU too, which means you can run your favorite Linux distro and all your apps without any compatibility issues.

I really don't see a reason why I should buy the Flipper One.

https://gpdstore.net/gpd-pocket-4/

dpoloncsak 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The product you’re suggesting is $1400, where as the zero sold for a 1/8 of that. Do we expect the Flipper One to have such a price hike as well?

Karliss 40 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Flipper zero was an arduino with half a dozen sensor, radio and other communication modules. Flipper one is a laptop/mobile phone class system in weird form factor no doubt its going to be more expensive. No point even comparing them. You can't call it a price hike if it's completely different category of product. There have been plenty of openish tinkerer laptop/mobile phones projects to know that paying high end laptop price for a device with compute power of last generation raspberry pi is a likely outcome.

d3Xt3r an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

We don't know the cost of the One yet. Besides, the GPD can also be used for playing AAA games, and the keyboard makes it far more useful as a general purpose PC.

boesboes an hour ago | parent [-]

my macbook can do that too, and is much faster!

It's clear you want something else, go buy that instead of shitting on other projects maybe?

d3Xt3r an hour ago | parent [-]

A MacBook can't fit in a pant pocket though. The GPD can, well, at least in cargo pant pockets.

embedding-shape 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Not to mention you'd need REALLY large and durable pants/shorts pockets to fit a 27cm X 5cm X 20cm device that weights more than 1.5kg (yes, kilos!) compared to what the Flipper One will end up being.

d3Xt3r an hour ago | parent [-]

I have the GPD Win Mini and it fits fine in my cargo pant pockets.

embedding-shape 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I dunno, I loved the form factor of Flipper Zero, with the addition of a PTT and a more rugged design, this is quite literally an instant buy for me. It has sufficient connectivity that it'd be trivial to bring your own keyboard, in whatever size you'd like, and I'm surely not alone in not wanting a static keyboard attached to the device as I'd never have any use for it, the Flipper (in my view) is a portable device you use for enumerating and executing, but everything else I do on my desktop transferring data to/from the Flipper.

I'm also not sure what I'd do with more than 8GB of RAM, I could literally run my entire OS + dekstop environment + the current applications I have open on my workstation desktop right now with that, and still have room to spare.

lxgr an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Today, I think so too, but I think they're onto something with the idea of a PTT-like local LLM interface. With 2-3 orders of magnitude more local inference power, I could really see this work out!

"Hey Flipper, log onto Wi-Fi SSID FooBarAir, pick the free "messaging only" plan, and set up an IP-over-WhatsApp proxy exposed over the second, encrypted SSID" :)

swaits 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Here is an alternative that I think has real potential:

https://m5stack.com/cardputerzero

anonzzzies 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Nice but zero blobs/everything open? As that's the main interesting part here; full, no binary blobs, open docs/code ...

mr_machine 36 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

GPD already makes such things, as does ClockworkPi. The Flipper One is exciting in significant part because it offers a different, smaller form factor.

Gigachad an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The thing has a 2 color display. 8gb is massively overkill. Theres not much you could do on this that would even need 2 gb.

crimsonnoodle58 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Surely you've seen the price of 64GB of RAM lately?

kylecazar an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The form factor is indeed strange. It reminds me of an N-Gage if they had a "rugged"/durable version that was made for construction sites.

NeckBeardPrince 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don’t think the Flipper market is trying to compete with devices like this.

d3Xt3r an hour ago | parent | next [-]

If you're strictly taking about the Zero, I'd agree with you, but with the One they're entering a new market. I mean, kind of people who like to mess around with Linux and do hacker-y network-y things are also generally the kind of people who would prefer to use a keyboard, the kind who would love the extra hardware grunt to speed up tools like hashcat.

And of course, the One will be cheaper than a full-fledged x86 handheld, but if you're willing to spend a bit more, you can do so so much more - it becomes a more practical device.

archargelod 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

What is the flipper market, anyway? I can only think of script-kiddies pwning neighbours wi-fi router and computer nerds buying it as a toy.

aa-jv an hour ago | parent [-]

pwnagotchi makes a pretty bad-ass portable linux system that can be used for development when its not crunching wifi ..

fsflover 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Have you considered Pinephone with the keyboard?