| ▲ | Gemini 3.5 Flash(blog.google) |
| 215 points by spectraldrift 2 hours ago | 38 comments |
| https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/models/gemini-3.5-flas... |
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| ▲ | simonw 43 minutes ago | parent | next [-] |
| The pelican is a lot: https://github.com/simonw/llm-gemini/issues/133#issuecomment... Not a great bicycle though, it forgot the bar between the pedals and the back wheel and weirdly tangled the other bars. Expensive too - that pelican cost 13 cents: https://www.llm-prices.com/#it=11&ot=14403&sel=gemini-3.5-fl... |
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| ▲ | hedgehog 40 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | That pelican looks like it's in Miami for a crypto conference. | | |
| ▲ | joseda-hg 11 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | It looks like the starting soon screen of a crypto presentation | |
| ▲ | xattt 19 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | It looks like it’s been partying for 60 years based on the wrinkles on its pouch. |
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| ▲ | tantalor 11 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Forgetting the chainstay is typical of asking random people to draw a bicycle. https://www.gianlucagimini.it/portfolio-item/velocipedia/ > most ended up drawing something that was pretty far off from a regular men’s bicycle | |
| ▲ | smcleod 17 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I feel like it embodies Google's vibe of an uncool guy trying to stay relevant to the youth pretty well. | |
| ▲ | irthomasthomas 24 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | This is a perfect illustration of something I noticed with llm progress. Ask them to improve an svg like this, and it never fixes the missing crossbar or disconnected limbs, it just adds more stuff. In this example they have obviously improved greatly, and it contains a ridiculous amount of detail, but they still to get the basic shape of the frame right. | |
| ▲ | hydra-f 34 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Same old issue with Gemini models trying to "enrich" everything | |
| ▲ | gcgbarbosa 19 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | funny that when I try the same prompt, gemini generates an image, not an SVG.
something is not right. | | |
| ▲ | simonw 3 minutes ago | parent [-] | | That's likely because you're using the Gemini app which has a tool for image generation (nano banana) - I do my tests against the API to avoid any possibility of tool use. |
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| ▲ | holtkam2 17 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | at a certain point you're gonna need to change your benchmark because this will end up in the model's training set | | | |
| ▲ | nashashmi 28 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Beats a human by like 10$ | | |
| ▲ | unglaublich 16 minutes ago | parent [-] | | So according to Google logic, the value of the pelican is $10-eps.
(They applied that reasoning to conversions via adwords) |
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| ▲ | OhMeadhbh 16 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Am I really so old that when someone says "Flash" my immediate response is... "consider HTML5 instead" ?? |
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| ▲ | nightski 9 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Very little of what made the Flash culture so fun made its way into HTML5. |
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| ▲ | reconnecting an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Knowledge cutoff: January 2025 Latest update: May 2026 I have a very bad feeling about this lag. |
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| ▲ | SwellJoe a minute ago | parent | next [-] | | [delayed] | |
| ▲ | yoda7marinated 29 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I thought that was a choice that Google made? | |
| ▲ | hosel an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Can you explain what you mean? | | |
| ▲ | reconnecting 20 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | LLM pre-training models risk being unable to be updated with data from after 2025, as much of it is corrupted with LLM-generated content. We might be locked into outdated knowledge, where only whitelisted sources decide what to include. Taking into account the sometimes blind belief that 'LLMs know everything', the outcome could be very costly, especially for technologies and businesses unfortunate enough to emerge after 2025. | |
| ▲ | nemomarx 43 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | It might indicate core model training and pre training is really slowing down? | | |
| ▲ | mixtureoftakes 32 minutes ago | parent [-] | | also parsing is harder + so much more of the new data is being generated by ai itself. still the cutoff is very much concerning and inconvenient |
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| ▲ | paperwork360 8 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Google also updated Antigravity. version 2.0 is more for conversation with agent. The previous VS Code like IDE was much better. |
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| ▲ | wg0 13 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| 3x price increase for a similar model almost. And they said AI would be cheaper and ubiquitous. |
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| ▲ | x3cca 12 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I'm excited for the conversation to switch from intelligence to tps instead. I care much less about what hard thought experiments models can one shot and much more how responsive my plain text interface for doing things is. |
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| ▲ | lanewinfield 25 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Gemini 3.5 Flash's 2000 token clocks aren't bad. https://clocks.brianmoore.com/ |
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| ▲ | mackross 36 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The antigravity teamwork-preview doesn't work for me -- upgraded to ultra, installed antigravity 2, ran teamwork-preview, keeps failing: "You have exhausted your capacity on this model. Your quota will reset after 0s." |
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| ▲ | MASNeo 44 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Well, available for Gemini means these days that half the time they are “Receiving a lot of requests right now.” and so sorry they couldn’t complete the task. Luckily the model supports long time horizons because that’s what’s needed. /me likes Gemini a lot just wishing Google would add the compute! |
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| ▲ | ai_fry_ur_brain 9 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Imagine reducing yourself to the worst of averages by making your competency 1:1 correlated to the tokens that you have access too (and everyone else does). |
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| ▲ | swe_dima 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Flash family but costs like a Pro. $9 vs $12 for output. |
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| ▲ | casey2 19 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I think the field moved to agents too fast. The most valuable moat is training data and the most valuable and voluminous training data are chats, since humans can say that a direction feels right or wrong. |
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| ▲ | stan_kirdey an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| EXPENSIVE ._. |
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| ▲ | f311a 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| $9/1M output |
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| ▲ | explosion-s 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | I wonder if this is because it's a larger model or maybe just because they can? Although with the latest Deepseek it's really tough to compete pricing wise. Inference speed and integration (e.g. Antigravity) might be their only hope here | | |
| ▲ | hydra-f 39 minutes ago | parent [-] | | It has to be a larger model, wouldn't make much sense otherwise. That isn't to say the price isn't artificially increased as well The Antigravity harness is really well done, so I do agree it's their strong suit. Can't say the same about gemini-cli (though it has a really nice interface) Would still choose Deepseek for the price |
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| ▲ | ralusek 41 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Those prices, what a disappointment. |
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| ▲ | jdw64 33 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Honestly, I feel like the new Gemini 3.5 Flash is a failure. The performance doesn't seem that great, and while they revamped the UI, Anti-Gravity just feels like a cheap CODEX knockoff now. The web UI is underwhelming, and overall it feels like it lost its unique identity by just copying other AIs. It’s a flop in both performance and price point. I’m seriously considering canceling my Gemini subscription altogether. Using Chinese AI models might actually be a better option at this point |
