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data-ottawa 8 hours ago

It’s amazing this runs perfectly smooth on my iPhone 12 mini

That is indeed a very cool scene being about to wander around and still have decent resolution

lopsotronic 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Ah the timeless joy of falling through the floor geometry.

Seriously though - it's breathtaking.

The first guy who figures out the bridge between splats and dynamism - animation, editing, responsiveness - is going to be one of the immortals of 3d design.

cubefox 6 hours ago | parent [-]

There are many ways to represent 3D data, but animations really only work properly with polygon meshes (e.g. triangle surface meshes or volumetric tetrahedral meshes).

data-ottawa 18 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I don’t know. Maybe today, but tomorrow?

If you can sample points inside a volume, in theory you could do that with splat geometry. If someone figures out a way to pass in animation time to a sampler, sample along geometry/wireframe or something else, and keep it from overly twinkling it might change everything.

I’m hand waving all the complexity into “if done one figures out”, of course.

I just don’t see why this method can’t evolve in the way diffusion models have evolved (knowing very little of the geberative mechanics of splats).

lopsotronic 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

But the mesh is itself an abstraction, you just need to build that bridge.

We've been leaning away from pure polygons for decades, anyway. Vertex skinning, SDFs, volumetrics, simulation, and a lot more.

The meshes in a From Software game are for exmple hilariously simple, most of the animation is force simulation to make the famous "frizzles" that they like.

cubefox 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Vertex skinning is essential for animation and it only works with polygons.

lopsotronic an hour ago | parent [-]

I'm not sure that's completely accurate? Vertex skinning isn't (necessarily) tied to polygons . . but to having points (or any parameterized features) that can be transformed by a weighted blend of matrices.

The "vertex" in "vertex skinning" is really just "a thing with a position that gets moved."

p' = Σ wᵢ · Mᵢ · p

It's just a position. Triangles can come along for the ride downstream, but they're not essential, which is one of the reasons it's so efficient for some stuff. Polygons are the optimal surface - but surfaces are often extraneous.

Take all this a few hefty grains of salt, I'm an amateur in the field. My 3d/CAD work is strictly in support of my enterprise stuff. And making wicked battlemaps for gaming VTTs, natch.

But I will stand by the overarching statement that polygons are in fact an abstraction, and bridging that abstraction with whatever is in splats would be wicked awesome.

thfuran 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You pretty much just need a representation that can be constructed reasonably and interpolated.