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lopsotronic 4 hours ago

But the mesh is itself an abstraction, you just need to build that bridge.

We've been leaning away from pure polygons for decades, anyway. Vertex skinning, SDFs, volumetrics, simulation, and a lot more.

The meshes in a From Software game are for exmple hilariously simple, most of the animation is force simulation to make the famous "frizzles" that they like.

cubefox 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Vertex skinning is essential for animation and it only works with polygons.

lopsotronic an hour ago | parent [-]

I'm not sure that's completely accurate? Vertex skinning isn't (necessarily) tied to polygons . . but to having points (or any parameterized features) that can be transformed by a weighted blend of matrices.

The "vertex" in "vertex skinning" is really just "a thing with a position that gets moved."

p' = Σ wᵢ · Mᵢ · p

It's just a position. Triangles can come along for the ride downstream, but they're not essential, which is one of the reasons it's so efficient for some stuff. Polygons are the optimal surface - but surfaces are often extraneous.

Take all this a few hefty grains of salt, I'm an amateur in the field. My 3d/CAD work is strictly in support of my enterprise stuff. And making wicked battlemaps for gaming VTTs, natch.

But I will stand by the overarching statement that polygons are in fact an abstraction, and bridging that abstraction with whatever is in splats would be wicked awesome.