| ▲ | bradley13 3 hours ago |
| Iran could easily have garnered a lot of international sympathy and support. Instead, they attacked their neighbors, impacted the world economy, and now are basically asking for blackmail money: "nice ship you have there...". Maybe Trump should bomb them some more? |
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| ▲ | srean 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Sympathy gets you Gaza, West Bank and a few refugee camps. Geopolitics understands one language alone. |
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| ▲ | Jensson 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | And what has this done to help Iran so far? Trump doesn't care about peoples opinions, US oil is making record profits thanks to the war so there wont be pushback from them, and Trump has 5 more months until midterms that is still plenty of time. The main thing it resulted in is the Europe led coalition that aims to ensure the strait will never get blocked again, so Iran can never play this card again, that will lose them a lot of political power in the future since this card is now gone. | | |
| ▲ | nullocator an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | 5 more months until midterms is plenty of time to do what exactly? Tell us that he won the war on Iran twice a day every, just like he has been doing for the last 2 months? The economic impact of this is just starting to be felt and will get increasingly painful for at least the remainder of the calendar year (depending on how much longer the straight stays closed). There is no mechanism for him to just sweep this under the rug. Perhaps you believe him every time he says he won, I think most us don't believe it and never will not matter how many times he repeats the lie. "never get blocked again" just like when it was claimed by the U.S. it wouldn't be blocked in the first place, or that it would only be a few days...sure sure. I'm sure the IRGC is about to call the European and U.S. leaders and tell them how bigly they are and how scared of more bombing they are. | |
| ▲ | srean 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Survival. | | |
| ▲ | Jensson 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | In what way? What do you think would be different if Iran didn't block the strait? | | |
| ▲ | srean 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Trump's tweets gave a clear indication of what's coming their way next. | | |
| ▲ | Jensson 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yes, USA will bomb Iran, so how did blocking the strait help them? | | |
| ▲ | ImPostingOnHN 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Well, first of all, the USA already bombed Iran, so closing the strait is an effect, not a cause. Second of all, it's also more likely the USA will back down as a result of widespread disapproval, than it is that USA will effectuate a full ground invasion (which would result in heavy losses). Whereas if they had complied with the don's demand that they be a vassal state of the USA and israel, they would not be a sovereign country anymore. This isn't exactly abnormal: for a USA analogue, look at Patrick Henry's comments on liberty. |
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| ▲ | nkrisc 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Well the strait was open and freely navigable before trump bombed them. What Iran has learned from this is they don’t need sympathy, they need to exercise the leverage they do have, and there’s no way they’re ever going to willingly give that leverage up - they’ve seen what would happen. |
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| ▲ | myko 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Some idiot tore up the JCPOA, the only thing really preventing Iran from getting nukes. The lesson here is: get nukes | | |
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| ▲ | seanclayton 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Ukraine also gave up its nukes. Look how that worked out for them and Europe. |
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| ▲ | severino 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Were they theirs? Germany has nukes too but they're not theirs, they're from the US. Germany can't say "fuck off" to the ~50k Americans stationed in the country, leave NATO and get to keep the nukes. |
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| ▲ | statguy 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| yeah right, lets kill some more Iranian schoolgirls!! |
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| ▲ | tdb7893 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| "Iran could easily have garnered a lot of international sympathy and support" What? I understand sympathy but I am not understanding what the path could've been to meaningful support against US aggression here. |
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| ▲ | postalrat 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Well it worked to get USA and Israel to stop attacking. |
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| ▲ | pphysch 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| International law, much less "international sympathy", is a meaningless phrase in 2026. |
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| ▲ | crikeykangaroo 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Iran was attacked by the US and Israel (the state committing genocide right now).
International law, rules and agreements don't seem to matter when it comes to the US and Israel.
Fortunately, the world is becoming more and more multi-polar, and the decline of the US (which to a certain extent is probably caused by how Israel is dragging them to wars) is necessary to have some world peace.
I do have to note that I feel sorry for the bulk of Americans who are just trying to live their lives. |
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| ▲ | HappyPanacea 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Iran knows hard currency is better than soft power |
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| ▲ | tehjoker 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| This is an incredible 180 degree misinterpretation of who attacked whom. Iran is garnering incredible international sympathy and support. There is no just war theory that can support what America has done to Iran. It is immoral, illegal aggression. |
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| ▲ | bradley13 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | They ate getting relatively little sympathy. Why? Because they are pissing everyone off who might have sympathized. Seriously dumb. And now this mafia-esque blackmail? | |
| ▲ | Pay08 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > Iran is garnering incredible international sympathy and support. From who? | | |
| ▲ | constantius an hour ago | parent [-] | | Look around you mate. There are protests against the war/against the US/against Israel in major capitals, the Lego videos go viral, news regularly mention EU heads of state talking to Iranian ministers. After weeks of the strait being shut, no EU country has joined US and Israel. Every EU opposition party is including the end of the war in their manifesto. Does any of that look like no support? For most of the world, Iran is the victim of two dangerous countries. I bet you a tenner that when the US and Israel give up and the end of the war is officially announced, there'll be dancing in your streets. |
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| ▲ | ImPostingOnHN 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| > [Iran] now are basically asking for blackmail money: "nice ship you have there..." This doesn't sound like the don to you? "hey Iran, nice country you have there..." > Maybe Trump should bomb them some more? If the USA is going to be bombing every country which doesn't give up their sovereignty and bend the knee to the don, then the USA is going to need more bombs. |
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| ▲ | bradley13 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | My comment about Trump was meant to be sarcastic. Sorry, if that was not obvious... | | |
| ▲ | ImPostingOnHN an hour ago | parent [-] | | Huh? You're saying your whole post was sarcasm? Including the part where you criticize Iran for "blackmail" while the don has been doing the same thing since starting the war? Poe's Law in action, I guess. In general, sarcasm isn't a good way to have a good discussion. Better to just say what you mean, rather than the opposite of what you mean, with the assumption that everyone will know you didn't actually mean it. |
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