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Jensson 3 hours ago

And what has this done to help Iran so far? Trump doesn't care about peoples opinions, US oil is making record profits thanks to the war so there wont be pushback from them, and Trump has 5 more months until midterms that is still plenty of time.

The main thing it resulted in is the Europe led coalition that aims to ensure the strait will never get blocked again, so Iran can never play this card again, that will lose them a lot of political power in the future since this card is now gone.

nullocator an hour ago | parent | next [-]

5 more months until midterms is plenty of time to do what exactly? Tell us that he won the war on Iran twice a day every, just like he has been doing for the last 2 months? The economic impact of this is just starting to be felt and will get increasingly painful for at least the remainder of the calendar year (depending on how much longer the straight stays closed). There is no mechanism for him to just sweep this under the rug. Perhaps you believe him every time he says he won, I think most us don't believe it and never will not matter how many times he repeats the lie.

"never get blocked again" just like when it was claimed by the U.S. it wouldn't be blocked in the first place, or that it would only be a few days...sure sure. I'm sure the IRGC is about to call the European and U.S. leaders and tell them how bigly they are and how scared of more bombing they are.

srean 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Survival.

Jensson 3 hours ago | parent [-]

In what way? What do you think would be different if Iran didn't block the strait?

srean 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Trump's tweets gave a clear indication of what's coming their way next.

Jensson 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes, USA will bomb Iran, so how did blocking the strait help them?

ImPostingOnHN 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Well, first of all, the USA already bombed Iran, so closing the strait is an effect, not a cause.

Second of all, it's also more likely the USA will back down as a result of widespread disapproval, than it is that USA will effectuate a full ground invasion (which would result in heavy losses).

Whereas if they had complied with the don's demand that they be a vassal state of the USA and israel, they would not be a sovereign country anymore.

This isn't exactly abnormal: for a USA analogue, look at Patrick Henry's comments on liberty.