Show HN: Rocksky – Music scrobbling and discovery on the AT Protocol

cfunderburg 3 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

So, the app I'm working on now supports scrobbling to both last.fm and ListenBrains.

With the former, I build the app with my own API_KEY and SHARED_SECRET, then the actual user has to add their username/password, which gets stored in the Apple keychain.

With the latter, I don't need a API KEY built into the app, and they just login with a username and a token.

Would I be right that I could just duplicate the listenbrainz code with your endpoint and it would work the same way?

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edgardurand 10 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The ATProto angle is compelling, but I think frictionless migration will be key. If users can import Last.fm history and keep their existing scrobbling clients, this could be much easier to adopt.

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tuvix 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Super awesome!

I credit last.fm with showing me a lot of the music I love, it’s the perfect recommendation model and still the best social music platform so I’m definitely rooting for you to improve on it!

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tsiry 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Thank you! Last.fm was a huge inspiration for Rocksky. I still think scrobbling and social listening are some of the best ways to discover music. Hoping to bring a more open and modern approach to it with ATProto.

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embedding-shape 7 hours ago | parent [-]

If you can a find a way of A) getting live scrobbles from Last.fm into Rocksky without having to change the clients that are all using Last.fm already and/or B) get historical scrobbles out of Last.fm into Rocksky, I'd think you could potentially take over the ecosystem relatively quickly :)

	▲	tsiry 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Yes, interoperability is super important to me. I don't want users to rebuild their entire setup just to try Rocksky.

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frantathefranta an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Hopefully Plex (PlexAmp specifically) will support this at some point.

	▲	nighthawk454 4 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		I’m running MultiScrobbler to scrobble from multiple sources (Spotify/PlexAmp) to multiple sinks (Last.fm/ListenBrainz/Maloja). Looks like they already support writing to Rocksky! https://github.com/FoxxMD/multi-scrobbler

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j1elo 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You truly know that you're totally out of the loop with some topic when you read "Music discovery on the AT Protocol" and think how the heck did they manage to build such thing with just AT Commands against a GSM modem [^]

^ https://ozeki.hu/p_3653-at-command-guide-for-gsm-modem-netwo...

	▲	Linux-Fan 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I don't know why you are being downvoted, but I totally thought about that AT protocol first. Apparently, the OP refers to <https://atproto.com/> per the FAQ at <https://docs.rocksky.app/faq-918661m0#what-is-the-at-protoco...>

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CharlesW 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Tonight I'll be adding support for this in an app (Poppy.fm) that already supports both Last.fm and ListenBrainz. Apologies if I missed this, but am I understanding correctly that users must get a Rocksky API key? (In other words, there's no OAuth support for native iOS users who'll expect a "Sign in with Bluesky"-type flow?)

	▲	tsiry an hour ago \| parent [-]
		OAuth is possible, but the tricky part is not really the auth flow, it's the client-side ATProto write logic. To scrobble properly, the client needs to keep enough historical scrobble state to avoid duplicates, and Rocksky doesn't only publish a scrobble record. It may also need to publish related records like artist, album, and track metadata. So I'd like to make the integration easier, but it needs a bit more than "just OAuth".

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tsiry 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

https://rocksky.app

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ssl-3 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Thanks. From the FAQ, https://docs.rocksky.app/faq-918661m0

> What is Rocksky?

> Rocksky is a decentralized, open-source music tracking and discovery platform built on the AT Protocol. It works like Last.fm but publishes your listening history directly to your Bluesky account.

Can we start a trend where we tell people what the thing is and what it does without making them dig around to find it?

I don't use Bluesky and don't plan to start. Rocksky really isn't for me.

While it's not like it was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying 'Beware of the Leopard,' this whole experience could have been concluded a lot faster if the project page simply described the function of the thing in a forthright fashion.

	▲	jamilton 3 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I thought "A decentralized music tracking and discovery platform" and the features list was plenty descriptive. I don't think you have to use Bluesky to use this, I think Bluesky is like the backend, and otherwise it's a Last.fm alternative?
	▲	MajorTakeaway 5 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Instead of a line by line command copypaste, they really could have used a single post where users can just copy the commands and paste the set to terminal.

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matteomrj 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Finally an Atmosphere app on HN, and it's also a very cool one!

	▲	embedding-shape 7 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Two if we're being pedantic, Tangled.org where this git repository is hosted it also a Atmosphere app ;)

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jbk 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

So you can scrobble and it gets you new music? But so, how can you listen to that new music?

	▲	tsiry an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Rocksky itself isn't a streaming service, it tracks what you listen to from other apps/services and builds discovery/social features arround that listening history.
	▲	CharlesW 4 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		You scrobble to record your listens, and then based on your listening history, there are many ways (in scrobblers and services that integrate with them) to get recommendations. Example: https://resources.onestowatch.com/how-lastfm-recommends-new-...

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DonsDiscountGas 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I really hate the word scrobble. I'm pretty tolerant of weird language as long as it can be understood, but this can't. Everybody who uses the word seems to think it's a normal word that everybody already knows or can figure out from context (so they never define it), but "scrobble your music" could mean a million things.

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phyzix5761 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Can you add a youtube video of the song so it plays it on your site?

	▲	jazzyjackson 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		A lot of commercial music refuses to be played within an iframe

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tamimio 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Lovely, will give it a try later today!

I ditched all music services and now navidrome+narjo combo, works perfectly well, flac, and with reverse proxy exposing the server there’s no need to vpn or anything, it’s a drop in replacement, and free.