> TIL that Microsoft is the least Israel-friendly of the big three clouds

This is a good thing.

American companies should not be allowing their tech to be used to in the gross ongoing human rights violations in Israel/Gaza/West Bank.

Google and Amazon knew their tech could be used for human rights abuses in Israel (their lawyers warned them so) but ignored that in favour of $$$ per the EFF:

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/04/google-and-amazon-ackn...

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ApolloFortyNine 31 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Thanks for the link, I didn't realize the EFF spent their money on such things. I honestly thought they focused on free speech/privacy/open source.

I'm not trying to argue pro Israel or what not, I just wish they'd focus on their core mission.

	▲	4MOAisgoodenuf 25 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Somewhat hard to be neutral when outgrowths of the Israeli state like the NSO Group and Canary Mission start taking a stand against privacy and free speech

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danudey 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yeah but when you read the article it comes across less like 'Microsoft doesn't want its services used for ethics violations' and more 'The unethical genocide Israel is doing uses some servers in the EU exposing Microsoft to legal and regulatory issues'.

IOW this isn't an ethical or moral stance against what the Ministry of Defense was doing, it's purely because they could potentially get in trouble with the EU for abetting the genocide.

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bhouston 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Yeah but when you read the article it comes across less like 'Microsoft doesn't want its services used for ethics violations' and more 'The unethical genocide Israel is doing uses some servers in the EU exposing Microsoft to legal and regulatory issues'.

You are incorrect. Microsoft has made clear that it is related to all of its Azure services that were misused with regards to its terms of services, not just those in Europe.

Here is Microsoft's original statement when it began this investigation:

"The Guardian, on that date, reported that multiple individuals have asserted that the IDF is using Azure for the storage of data files of phone calls obtained through broad or mass surveillance of civilians in Gaza and the West Bank. Microsoft’s standard terms of service prohibit this type of usage."

https://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2025/05/15/stateme...

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shevy-java an hour ago | parent [-]

Ok, so The Guardian was incomplete in its assumptions. But Microsoft's explanation also does not make sense - see how they have to support any war waged by the US government. They would have had to support the Vietnam war, if were were in that era back. Something does not add up here still.

	▲	bhouston an hour ago \| parent [-]
		> see how they have to support any war waged by the US government. They would have had to support the Vietnam war, if were were in that era back. Something does not add up here still. I am so confused by these statements. Microsoft and other private companies do not have to knowingly violate human rights in the service of the US government whether it is war or not. https://www.justsecurity.org/113820/us-corporate-interests-h... https://www.state.gov/bureau-of-democracy-human-rights-and-l...

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shevy-java an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Agreed, but then Germany is also to be held liable as it supports Israel and allows the USA to use its bases there to bomb people in far-away countries. So there is a huge inconsistency here, IMHO.

	▲	bhouston an hour ago \| parent [-]
		> then Germany is also to be held liable as it supports Israel Yup you are correct. In parallel to the ICJ genocide case of South Africa v Israel, there is a case against Germany for its action in support of Israel on that exact topic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicaragua_v._Germany

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expedition32 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeah this is exactly it. Europe is no longer friendly with Israel.

It makes Americans seethe with rage ofcourse- only Americans are allowed to put pressure on corporations.

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frumplestlatz 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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megabless123 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/09/israel-has-c...

GENEVA – Israel has committed genocide against Palestinians in the Gaza Strip, the UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem, and Israel said in a new report today. The Commission urges Israel and all States to fulfil their legal obligations under international law to end the genocide and punish those responsible for it.

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krembo 42 minutes ago | parent [-]

The UN has been biased against Israel for the past decades. I don't buy any of their reports.

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array_key_first 25 minutes ago | parent [-]

The UN, like most western organizations, is biased in favor of Israel. Meaning, this reporting is what favorable coverage looks like. You should read unfavorable coverage, it's much much worse. It took the UN a long time to acknowledge Israel even did anything wrong.

	▲	krembo 6 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Thanks to you I had a good laugh.

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catigula an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Incorrect.

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drnick1 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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righthand an hour ago | parent [-]

Israel is effectively governed by a terrorist organization backed by USA.

	▲	minimal_action an hour ago \| parent [-]
		The west is not your home

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george916a an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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ToucanLoucan 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> American companies should not be allowing their tech to be used to in the gross ongoing human rights violations in Israel/Gaza/West Bank.

Fully agreed, but also a hard sell given that America itself does not recognize what is happening there as a genocide.

Something something man understanding depending on his salary.

Americans only give a shit about the price of gas and eggs. Whoever has to die to keep those down is apparently fine with the majority of our population.

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bhouston 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Fully agreed, but also a hard sell given that America itself does not recognize what is happening there as a genocide.

This has nothing to do with a declaration of genocide. Both Amazon and Google respectively have made commitments to not enable human rights violations:

https://sustainability.aboutamazon.com/human-rights/principl...

https://about.google/company-info/human-rights/

	▲	ToucanLoucan 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Well clearly they didn't mean much, which is about what I expect from any corporate policy declaration such as. If you believed them anyway, congratulations on having far more faith in corporations than I do.

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stasomatic an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Like... all of us 300 million plus? Thanks dude.

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yodsanklai 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> American companies should not be allowing their tech to ...

Do they have a choice?

	▲	idle_zealot an hour ago \| parent [-]
		In what dimension do you mean? Legally? Yes, unless based out of a place with an anti-BDS law. Politically? Sure, it's a bet against those currently in power and for the sentiment in the population. Practically? Yes, they can refuse business and contracts. I suppose they could also put killswitches in their hardware/software, but I wouldn't be a fan of that for digital-rights reasons. Economically? Who knows, the market makes no sense at all currently. They could probably get away with whatever.