| ▲ | k4rli 7 hours ago |
| Interestingly GrapheneOS being so good brings more money to Google as only Pixel phones are supported. |
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| ▲ | snapplebobapple 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| First motorola grapheneos phone i am buying to get fully off the google pain train. Grapheneos tides me over until a real linux smart phone shows up or i die of old age. Now if home assistant could get thread network join*ng working without an android phone with a google account i could ve fully ris of those eh holes. |
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| ▲ | iamtedd 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > Now if home assistant could get thread network join*ng working without an android phone with a google account There is already a way to do this. It's fiddly, but not by much. Once set up it's a much better experience, though. https://www.matteralpha.com/how-to/how-to-use-home-assistant... | |
| ▲ | DANmode 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > real linux smart phone shows up What’s most glaringly missing, for you specifically, from the plethora of options available? It seems like plenty of options are getting 7/10 things right. | |
| ▲ | surgical_fire 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I am patiently waiting for that one. I have been willing to move to GrapheneOS for a while, but I don't feel like buying Google hardware. |
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| ▲ | mcraiha 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| There should be at least one Motorola phone before end of the year that has GrapheneOS support. |
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| ▲ | winter_blue 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Sadly, Verizon Pixel phones, even after carrier unlocking, seem to be forever blocked from using GrapheneOS. |
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| ▲ | neilv 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Carrier-sold Pixels generally don't have "OEM-unlockable" bootloaders. Your best bet for now is to buy a new Pixel direct from Google, or a used one from eBay that the seller advertises as already having GrapheneOS on it (or otherwise guarantees that the bootloader is unlockable). These ones are worth a lot more than the ones that can only run Google/carrier Android. https://grapheneos.org/install/web#prerequisites I own two GrapheneOS Pixel 7 units, which should get any Google blob security updates (which GrapheneOS incorporates) through October 2027, and GrapheneOS may still support it with source updates after that. So in a year or so, I might get the GrapheneOS Motorola if it's available, or a later Pixel. (I never buy these new, since I don't want to carry a several hundred dollar phone when a 2 gen old one is still great, thanks to GrapheneOS.) https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/4457705 | |
| ▲ | y-c-o-m-b 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I finally left Verizon after nearly 20 years. I had it with their enshittification, couldn't stand it anymore. I switched to US Mobile and on the Darkstar (AT&T) network. I have no regrets. I caught it on a black friday deal, so I'm paying basically $20/mo for top tier service. You wouldn't have caught me dead with an AT&T service or MVNO years ago because I'd seen so many bad experiences second-hand, but these days it's been a breeze knock on wood I also did the math and determined buying a new unlocked phone outright on this plan was far cheaper than paying Verizon monthly for one. | | |
| ▲ | buu700 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | +1 for US Mobile. Verizon was also good, but a few months ago my cofounder and I discovered we were absurdly overpaying for our decade-old small business plan and found that US Mobile offered a better end product for a fraction of the price. Currently running my Pixel on Warp (Verizon) with zero practical difference, and starting Monday I'll also have a backup iPhone with a small $8/mo Darkstar line. The money I've saved since switching more or less paid for the iPhone, and I'll be getting 2x reliability for way less ongoing cost. The better app/website/support and extra features are just a bonus. | |
| ▲ | DANmode 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > I also did the math and determined buying a new unlocked phone outright on this plan was far cheaper than paying Verizon monthly for one. On any plan. There’s a reason that as soon as you walk into a cell store they immediately try to schmooze you into signing contracts and leasing phones. It’s the way they make the most margin! |
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| ▲ | oceansky 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| So far. Other companies surely will make their devices compatible if the market share increases for it |
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| ▲ | DANmode 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I’ve seen this repeated here, but: Google's Pixel hardware division likely operates at a loss - or breaks even. and even if every active HN user bought $100-$400 used Pixels from Swappa, meaningless money to them. |
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| ▲ | zb3 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| I don't see a problem with supporting their legitimate hardware or cloud business models. But of course I see a problem supporting their illegitimate adware and spyware business models. |
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