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Teever 6 hours ago

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empyrrhicist 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> The President isn't to blame.

I mean, there's a lot of blame to go around, but tearing up a working deal that gave us unprecedented, multilateral access to Iran's nuclear facilities, and then later jumping into a war of choice with no clear objectives and seemingly being surprised by the most obvious geopoltical realities that people with any shred of a clue have been talking about for DECADES would seem to have at least something to do with the current mess.

In my book, the silver lining is that this might finally push the world to move away from fossil fuels in a meaningful way.

Teever 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Yeah but he wouldn't have been in the position to do any of that if the people who funded his campaign like the Adelsons, Kushners, Musk, Linda McMahon, Lutnick and so forth didn't contribute millions to his campaign and leverage whatever other resources they have to promote him.

And they in turn couldn't do any of that if the teams of professionals from lawyers, accountants to engineers didn't help them acquire and use those resources.

Just like violent crime is overwhelmingly perpetuated by a handful of repeat offenders we see the same pattern in white collar crime. A handful of white collar criminals cause damage to American society that cascades through the world resulting in food and fuel shortages that we're talking about.

I get that it's really hard but you have to view this dispassionately and from a systems thinking perspective. The professionals and oligarchs are responsible for the mad king scenario that we're all living through right now. They're responsible for the social decay that affects us daily.

And it's just going to keep getting worse and worse once the mad king eventually goes the way all mad kings do.

empyrrhicist 5 hours ago | parent [-]

I don't disagree with that, but it seems kind of like a acute cause/proximate cause sort of distinction to me.

That, and I don't forgive the general populace either.

__loam 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

He started the war!

CPLX 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

This is being downvoted, but it's correct. President is the symptom of the problem, not the cause.

vablings 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Correct, he is the symptom of the problem created by himself.

The Iran nuclear deal rode off the back of Stuxnet and concessions were easier with that damage. The recent strikes with the B2 were largely ineffectual so well done.