| ▲ | cryo32 6 hours ago |
| Sarcasm aside, yep. There will be three classes: the owned, the owners and the unownable. I aim to be unownable. |
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| ▲ | therepanic 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| There will be two classes: those who are part of the perpetual underclass and those who are not. And 98 percent of the population will be part of it. |
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| ▲ | psadauskas 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | There are _already_ two classes: Those who earn their living from their labor, and those whose income is derived simply by owning things they (often) didn't create themselves and charge for access. | | |
| ▲ | palmotea 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > Those who earn their living from their labor If any of these people don't work or don't work enough, they undeserving immoral moochers and should be miserable and in pain. > and those whose income is derived simply by owning things they (often) didn't create themselves and charge for access. It totally fine if these people never lift a finger in their lives. In fact, they deserve it. NEVER question that. N-E-V-E-R! It's great! Capitalism is great! Capitalism is fair! | |
| ▲ | SoftTalker 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | You talk like this is new, it's the way it's always been. | |
| ▲ | rokkamokka 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | The root of most of society's problems right there... | | |
| ▲ | smokel 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Also the root of most of society in the first place. We would probably not be able to sustain our current standard of living without this horrible system. |
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| ▲ | yubblegum 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > There will be two classes That confident "will" in that prognosis may ultimately stimulate a consensus "why?" response in the population to explore alternative outcomes .. |
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| ▲ | badc0ffee 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Sounds like my kid's friends talking about betas, alphas and sigmas. I think they aim to be sigmas. |
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| ▲ | gk-- 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| i've said something similar, but i shorten it to labour and capital. similar conclusion. |
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| ▲ | giraffe_lady 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It will be the same two classes there are now and always have been. Those who need to sell their labor and those they sell it to. Class struggle is the only way out. Find some solidarity, you aren't exempt. |
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| ▲ | dmos62 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| How will you do that? |
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| ▲ | cryo32 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | To be owned, someone needs leverage over you or the ability to coerce you. I spent the last half a century making sure they have no leverage and I am not interested in being coerced. It's called security. | | |
| ▲ | dmos62 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | If you don't care to go into detail, that's fine, but your answer is vague. E.g. do you have a hidden, off-grid, underground lair? | | |
| ▲ | cryo32 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | No. I don't need to work. I outright own my accomodation. I have no hard technology dependencies. | | |
| ▲ | khimaros 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | if you are on land, you are (or someone is) still paying rent to the government. rent can be raised and you will be evicted if you don't pay. if you are living mobile, you probably need gas or batteries for warmth or cooling. if your climate is currently comfortable, temperatures can be raised. or maybe you are a nomad hunting and gathering your own food? the wilderness can be pillaged and sold and "secured" until there's nothing left to eat. there is no perfect security. | | |
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| ▲ | overfeed 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > If you don't care to go into detail, that's fine, but your answer is vague No lairs necessary. You can read up on people who do FIRE. | | |
| ▲ | dexterdog 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | 99% of people who follow that are still completely dependent on the world order and will be just as screwed as everybody else if everything goes tits-up. | | |
| ▲ | cryo32 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | The aim is to be screwed last. That's a reasonable survival strategy. | |
| ▲ | overfeed 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | There's a lot of bullshit that can happen between the status quo and everything going tits up. Having FU money means you can say -all things being equal - "Fuck You" when it's appropriate, instead of worrying about becoming homeless or not having enough to eat |
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| ▲ | pllbnk 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Hey guys, Richard Stallman is on HN! | | |
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| ▲ | rexpop 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
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