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promiseofbeans 2 hours ago

I’m highly doubtful about this - it seems to be an excuse to disestablish the BSA, rather than a genuine basis for the decision.

I think this will help drive more partisan and sensationalist media, like one gets in the US. NZ has been relatively resistant to populism and partisanism in the past, partially because we have a watchdog to make the media all play nice.

Based on their arguments, they should really be expanding the BSA’s remit to officially cover internet-based NZ media.

Also, they’ve done a press release and talked on the radio about it to try and stir up headlines, but it’s highly unlikely to get through parliament before the upcoming election. Based on the current polling, the makeup of parliament is likely to dramatically alter by the end of the year: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2026_N...

roenxi 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> I’m highly doubtful about this - it seems to be an excuse to disestablish the BSA, rather than a genuine basis for the decision.

The title of the piece is "Government to disestablish the BSA" and the domain is .govt.nz. I think it only fair to point out they're being very upfront that this is their excuse for disestablishing the BSA.

> NZ has been relatively resistant to populism and partisanism in the past, partially because we have a watchdog to make the media all play nice.

It's an island [0] that has a smaller population the 2 largest cities of the nearest mainland, Australia. A substantial chunk of the country is uninhabitable due to mountains (and Orcs, based on what I've seen of it). It'd be quite challenging for the NZ population to rift into partisanship, they don't have enough people or space. If you look at somewhere like the US, it tends to be populations the size of NZ locked in a fight with other populations the size of NZ for who wants the right to tax the other.

What is NZ supposed to fight over, whether the factories go on north island or south island? It isn't that big a deal. I suppose no fight more serious than one over trivia, but really.

[0] Islands?

bombcar 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Venice was a hotbed of political intrigue in the olden days and had half the population of NZ.

roenxi an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I suppose. Although if NZ manages the sort of vigour and industry of Venice back in the day I am going to move there.

bombcar 16 minutes ago | parent [-]

It's amazing reading history, about a huge city that totally affected the course of a major war, manufacturing and logistics hub - open it up and look inside: "Population 10,000."

Roman Army at it's peak: 450,000 men.

Walmart: 2.1 million

(Cue reddit arguments about Roman Army vs Walmart)

piva00 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I don't think the republic of Venice ever had 2 million people, what time period are you referring to?

bombcar 17 minutes ago | parent [-]

Wikipedia reports it peaked at 2.5m - "16th century estimate".

toyg 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Without knowing anything about the current state of NZ politics, some general political strategies could be the source:

1. since they are in a lame-duck state (as you mentioned, everyone expects there will be an overhaul), they are trying to get done the dirty stuff they promised to big donors (this particular thing looks like a wet dream of Rupert Murdoch, for example)

2. since they expect to be beaten, they think unleashing the "dogs of hell" of unregulated media might actually help them

3. they have an actual proposal that is different from this but that they can sell as a compromise, after the inevitable pushback on this one, which will then be rushed through sight-unseen "because there is no time left"

4. this is just campaign noise, meant to attract interest from moneyed media so that they get treated well in the upcoming election cycle

If I were a betting man, I would put money on 1.