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derangedHorse an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> so of course grok is fine talking about it. Probably even offers strategies for them does free accounting has money laundering strategies etc...

The slander comes in when you assume Elon knew and was complicit with their crimes to the point he'd intentionally normalize it as a discussion topic in Grok. You even went so far as to say it's willing to assist in committing crimes.

	▲	2ndorderthought 13 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		He is aware of the csam generation. He blamed the users and the official stance from his team was not to offer any fixes. That is the last I heard. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2026/01/x-blames-users-f... I do not see the slander. These are his viewpoints. He says him, grok, and his team aren't responsible for what users do. Other companies, countries and people feel differently about the responsibility for AI models generating csam for money. Grok and xais depictions of it are that it isn't woke and is maximally based and is politically incorrect by design. So yes, chosing to avoid being correct about policies like laws and avoid social norms lead me to believe that the generation of hate speech(some of which was illegal in certain localities), csam, etc are an expected outcome. Like Elon musk said, it's the users fault not groks. So I would not be surprised if it offered other illegal advice or helped criminals forward criminal activities. Especially more than has already been reported. Here are some of the crimes that grok is being implicated in as far as I know today: https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/2026/03/03/number-of-ga... https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20251121-france-to-invest... https://www.robertkinglawfirm.com/mass-torts/grok-lawsuit/ https://news.bloomberglaw.com/litigation/grok-maker-xai-face... https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/musk-testifies-xai... Among others. I don't see that as slanderous. I see it as factual and an expected outcome for the stated goals of the product and the responses to the outcomes of the product itself by the company and its leadership. I legitimately do expect there to be more lawsuits and possibly criminal persecution against musk, xai, over grok and no I would not be surprised if the tool is currently being used for more crime. Especially given the response to the sexual crime allegations that have been made. I don't think Elon personally intends to normalize this. But I think that may happen anyways because I think the response was too soft. Yes I do think grok can be used to aid crimes and criminal activity like the many lawsuits and journalists currently suggest. I don't think grok is "willing" it's not a person. I know it currently has been implicated in generating material leading to the arrests of individuals. Which I would be very surprised if that was legal. https://factually.co/fact-checks/technology/grok-created-ill...

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gadders 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

So did Bill Gates and Reid Hoffman.

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sumeno 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yes, lots of billionaires were involved with the pedophile sex trafficker. They are all bad

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Der_Einzige 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Elon, bill, Reid and Trump should share a prison cell.

Democrats have no loyalty to their own sex offenders. Look how we treated the California governed candidate, or Anthony weiner, or literally every other sex pest found in our party. Some of them who didn’t even deserve it get canceled like Al Franklin.

Diddling and then defending it and doubling down is literally a maga problem.

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gadders 2 hours ago | parent [-]

The Ashley Biden diaries were verified as real yet Biden remained in office. Clinton was an abuser and likely a rapist but remained in power.

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KaiserPro an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> Ashley Biden diaries

Unless they contain allegations about Biden the president, or indeed other people then they are irellevent no?

The point is, if someone is breaking the law, they should be in jail.

This applies to Clinton, Biden, Trump, anyone. The point is the law is meant to be without fear or favour. The problem for us is that its been proven if you pour enough shit on the floor, you can get away with raping children.

Given the whole point of Qanon was to oust the peadophile ring in washington, its a bit sad that we are now supposed to disregard all that and blindly accept billionarse not seeing justice.

	▲	gadders an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Obviously the intelligence material being gathered was too valuable.

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felixgallo 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

someone stole Biden's daughter's diary, which revealed that she had battled a substance abuse problem in the past, and that's disqualifying to Biden exactly how?

	▲	gadders an hour ago \| parent [-]
		You know that's not the problematic text. Nice try. She said herself that he had inappropriate showers with her. He's also been caught numerous times on official videos behaving strangely around children.

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user34283 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

On Artifical Analysis it shows only Kimi K2.6 and Mimo V2.5 Pro as better.

Those models are 1T parameters total and 30B or 40B active, this might make abliteration impractical.

About Musk, yes, there is correspondence. The only confirmed meeting appears to be a 30 minute visit at Epstein's house together with Musk's wife at the time.

As for photos you mention, a quick search tells me there is one photo of Musk and Maxwell at a 2014 Vanity Fair Oscar Party.

I find most commentary on here and other platform like Reddit extremely exaggerated compared to what is actually confirmed. Users seem hellbent on linking Musk to pedophilia-related allegations.

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2ndorderthought 3 hours ago | parent [-]

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mapontosevenths 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Elon publicaly claimed he had never corresponded with Epstein. that was a lie.

When the documents were released they found several like thie one below. Saying things like "What day/night will be the wildest party on =our island?" [0]

The "our" part is especially interesting as it implies he didnt just visit, but had an ownership stake.

Other emails were found with Epstein making excuses to avoid having Musk visit, and Musks own child publically stated that the emails were authentic and aligned with her memory of the events. [1]

[0] https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA01762...

[1] https://www.threads.com/@vivllainous/post/DUMBh2Vkk8D?xmt=AQ...

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user34283 an hour ago | parent [-]

My searches have not turned up a result showing that Musk "claimed he had never corresponded with Epstein".

Can you source this? If not, can you explain why you did not check it before you posted the inaccurate claim?

	▲	mikeyouse an hour ago \| parent [-]
		At minimum Musk repeatedly claimed that Epstein was the one reaching out trying to get Musk to visit his island, when in reality Musk was the one initiating and asking which nights would be the wildest parties. And after making plans to visit with his then-wife, when Epstein warned him that the ratio of women-to-men might upset Musk’s wife, Musk told Epstein it wouldn’t be a problem. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jan/30/elon-musk... Musk has a long history of accusations (see the “I’ll buy you a horse” SpaceX lawsuit) as well as having fathered numerous children with women ~25 years younger than himself so not sure why you’d want to die on this particular hill.