It would have been much better to be able to disable telemetry without losing basic functionality such as navigation and safety updates. Having to choose between being spied on and having no connectivity at all is a false dichotomy.

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caymanjim 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Any connectivity at all is telemetry. The connection itself reveals where you are. Navigation reveals where you are down to the meter, along with everywhere you've been, where you're going, speed, etc. What else are you worried about if not that?

	▲	kelnos 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		It reveals where you are to the cell towers, but not to the car company. My phone already reveals where I am based on its cellular connectivity, so I'm not too worried about that.

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smotched 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

what telemetry are you worried about if you're already sharing your exact location at all times (navigation)

	▲	mingus88 3 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I’m not OP but I just want to point out that navigation doesn’t need to mean I am always sharing telemetry with multiple third parties I have a garmin watch which is great for overland hiking, multiple day expeditions etc I download the maps and the watch has GPS to plot where I am on that map. My watch doesn’t have an eSIM at all. Rivian is an adventure brand so if they wanted to design a maps system like that, where I am not continually downloading tiles from open maps or google and sending my location to them and others, they probably could I just don’t think they have space for those types of features most people don’t care about while they are trying to compete in a rough industry and deliver new vehicles
	▲	kelnos 3 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Why would you be sharing that? There's no reason why the navigation system needs to constantly tell a remote system where you are. Navigation systems don't even need an Internet connection for basic routing.