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ifwinterco 2 hours ago

At this point everyone doing these kind of flows (using claws or any other flows that run agents in a loop 24/7) using any kind of subscription-based billing for inference must be aware they're on borrowed time.

Enough people have gone over the economics - you're costing OpenAI/Anthropic money, potentially a lot of money, so it's inevitable that sooner or later that particular party will come to an end.

Having said that, doing it by running a regex on your prompts to look for keywords is a bit loose

halJordan 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

We all get the "realpolitik" of it. That doesn't mean anthropic just gets to ignore the contract they signed. Well it does as long as you're fighting the fight for them before it even gets to anthropic.

ifwinterco an hour ago | parent [-]

I strongly dislike all of these companies (and the people who run them), and I don't love LLMs in general, although I use them every day because they are useful for my job.

But the simple fact is, if you're paying $20/mo and using $200/mo of tokens, that is not going to last forever.

The only way to make it last a bit longer for the people with relatively sane usage patterns is to try and stop people absolutely taking the piss

AlotOfReading 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The demo above uses the prompt "hi". The openclaw string is in the git history, which Claude goes looking for.

ifwinterco an hour ago | parent [-]

You're right, didn't read that properly. Okay then that actually makes sense if that's a (relatively) deterministic way to work out if openclaw is used

AstroBen 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The only reasonable thing to do if you care about the longevity of your workflow is to build it around open-weight models.

If you choose to not be able to get work done without Claude you're at the mercy of whatever they want.

oblio 27 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

They can just do token caps. But they don't want to do that because "infinite" sells better.