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2ndorderthought 3 hours ago

Yep. If you cannot both safely and legally provide the thing you are selling you are no longer a legitimate company you are a criminal enterprise profiting off of exploitation.

esyir 3 hours ago | parent [-]

If car manufacturers cannot bring car related deaths to zero, they too should no longer be legitimate companies.

lokar 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

A better comparison would be that if a car company can’t meet preexisting crash/safety standards, they need to shut down.

These are pretty clear laws established by a democratic government with a pretty good record for rule of law.

esyir 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Sure, then they can go demand said standards for social media platforms including expected amount per N post, just as car companies are not expected to have car fatality rates be 0.

The fact is that simple scale means that there will always be something, no matter how abhorrent. Small scale doesn't change this, it just concentrates it.

2ndorderthought 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Do car companies sell cars without air bags, or seat belts? What about cars that haven't been crash tested? What happens to them if they don't do this do you think?

Would you drive a car optimized for profit that didn't have those safety features? How about on a highway? Daily?

esyir 3 hours ago | parent [-]

We're talking about CSAM right? Which all platforms remove proactively, build models to remove and essentially always respond to when informed.

Demanding some perfect immediate magic response there is the equivalent of asking car manufacturers to prevent all deaths.

2ndorderthought 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Do they remove it and respond really though?

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2026/01/x-blames-users-f...

Here it's said that it's the users fault. I disagree. Completely. Most of these companies, staying on topic many of these companies have laid off the employees who tried to prevent things like this,

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/22/meta-layoffs-ai.html

https://www.zdnet.com/article/us-ai-safety-institute-will-be...

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/dqd54wpEfjKJsJBk6/xai-s-grok...

The list of not even trying anymore goes on and on. Mechahitler was also fun

_DeadFred_ 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

When FORD dngaf with the Pinto and Corsair( like tech companies do not gaf), they deservedly got this same level of contempt/demand for oversite. A dude named Ralph Nader went on a huge crusade about it. And they got a ton more oversite, safety requirements, etc put on them.

So yes, yes, let's do like we did with cars.

genewitch 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I voted for Ralph Nader a few times, until he stopped appearing on ballots for whatever reason. For this reason, and many others. I don't remember any negative press about him, either. maybe he got out when mudslinging became defacto in elections.