| ▲ | arowthway 5 hours ago |
| Also make sure to avoid people with smartphones and places with video surveilence. |
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| ▲ | powvans 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Don't let perfect be the enemy of good. There's also nothing stopping us from stigmatizing the use of smartphones in public. Even a slight discouragement of it would be progress. It doesn't have to be all or nothing. |
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| ▲ | SoftTalker 9 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I think smartphones are a lost cause. Even at the gym, there are guys in the locker room taking pics of themselves in the mirror. Meanwhile I'm walking ass-naked out of the shower. There is just no sensitivity to appropriate time and place anymore. |
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| ▲ | HumblyTossed 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Is this an honest argument? Surely you can think of how glasses might be ... in a different league than the two items you mention? |
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| ▲ | yreg 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Unless you are using these during sex I consider a microphone to be 10x more privacy intruding than a camera. Security cameras afaik usually don't record audio, but all phones can. And they don't even need to be pointed in any specific direction. | | |
| ▲ | zdp7 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Many security cameras have the ability to record audio. Depending on where you are, it might be illegal to use it. All the cams I have purchased have it. That would include ReoLink and a recommended model from the Frigate site. |
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| ▲ | arowthway 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Because person wearing glasses usually can move and video surveillance cameras usually can't?
If that's not it then spell it out for me, please.
Also, why would i be deceptive in this discussion? I feel like I missed some ideological conflict. | | |
| ▲ | intended 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Imagine someone pulling up a smartphone and then recording everything that happens around them. Contrast that with someone wearing smart glasses and doing that exact same thing. On a separate note, (and this is a genuine question) are you by any chance aware the term Non-consensual intimate imagery / NCII? I am beginning to suspect that the average HN goer isn’t aware of the scope and scale of the Trust and Safety problem. | | |
| ▲ | throwmeaway888 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Have you heard the term non consensual intimate fantasies? I've heard it's an even bigger problem. | | |
| ▲ | intended 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Well, you would fortunately be wrong. Fantasies are commonplace and well studied in society, psychology and even in the law. The issue is when you go from fantasy to actually enacting it, which is usually when you earn the epithet of “Creep”. Also, why make a throwaway for this line? I take it you haven’t heard of NCII? |
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| ▲ | salawat 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | They don't care. Or they refuse to realize that tech isn't the solution to it, but an amplifier of it's scale. Can tell you that my urge to take photos/record drastically dips around other people. Particularly if it were meant for any sort of commercial exploitation. Stephenson called people wired for max indiscriminate data collection/processing "gargoyles". Personally I prefer glassholes. https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/the-borg-of... |
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| ▲ | db48x 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Not meaningfully. Anyone holding a smartphone might be recording you. You’d better avoid them if you don’t want to be recorded. | | |
| ▲ | NBJack 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Most people don't run around holding out their smartphone directly in front of them. It has to be pointed at the subject, and tends to be obvious. Smart glasses, however, are always aimed at whatever the wearer is looking at. They may or may not be recording (note the reports of people hiding the LED indicators), and at a fair distance could easily be mistaken for a normal pair. The general populace is much more likely to notice the former recording rather than the latter. | | |
| ▲ | recursive 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | I've seen people keep their phone in their shirt pocket. The only reason it tends to be obvious is that most people aren't trying to be covert. Those aren't the ones you should be worried about. |
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| ▲ | bredren 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | This line makes a valid point. People record strangers all the time. In an obvious way or trying to be sneaky. Just because you don’t notice it doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. However, this is still a different thing than smart glasses which can further be segmented into who designed the smart glasses. | |
| ▲ | azan_ 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Someone has to hold smartphone and point it at you. | |
| ▲ | iamnothere 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | [dead] |
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| ▲ | freehorse 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| If somebody was pointing a camera on me all the time? I would definitely avoid them. |
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| ▲ | amelius 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | People do that on my subway all the time. It's the camera of their smartphone. Not sure if it's ON though. | | |
| ▲ | voidUpdate 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | They point the camera of their smartphone directly at you? | | |
| ▲ | randallsquared 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | At everything on the opposite side of the screen, typically. There is a recording light for Meta glasses, but not one for iPhones, for example: the "recording" indicators are all user-side there. | | |
| ▲ | voidUpdate 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | When I'm on public transport, people generally face their phones in such a way that they'd only be filming your feet or the floor... They don't hold them up at head height in such a way that other people would be recorded. Maybe it's just a cultural thing | | | |
| ▲ | wolvoleo 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Usually they are pointed at the ground when they're reading off them. |
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