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| ▲ | frereubu 2 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| I think this kind of language predates widespread LLM use, and has been picked up from that kind of writing. It's a "and here's where it gets interesting" pattern that people like Malcolm Gladwell and Freakonomics have used, even if the same thing could be said in a way that makes it sound much less intriguing. |
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| ▲ | jmbwell 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The language of drama and import without meaningful substance. Words statistically likely to be used in a segue, regardless of the preceding or subsequent point. Particularly effective when it seems like you’re getting let in on a secret. Really fatiguing to read A writing teacher once excoriated me for saying that something was important. “Don’t tell me it’s important, show me, and let me decide, and if you do your job I’ll agree” I don’t know how a completion can tell when it needs to do this. Mostly so far it doesn’t seem capable |
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| ▲ | MarsIronPI 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Maybe the solution is to cull the bad, cliché writing from the training data. | | |
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| ▲ | helsinkiandrew 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Isn't this the format of "hook-driven media" a constant stream of "second-act pivots" - where some new twist is added to a story to re-engage the reader and keep them reading. BuzzFeed and Upworthy etc pioneered this for web 'news stories', then it got used in linkedin, twitter, and everywhere where views are more important than the content. |
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| ▲ | MarsIronPI 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Ugh, you're making me remember the last time I listened to NPR. It's so bad. |
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| ▲ | stuff4ben 2 days ago | parent [-] | | I listen to NPR daily and I don't think I've ever heard any of them use that phrasing. |
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| ▲ | bambax 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I notice this very often in LinkedIn posts, and it's annoying, but I had not realized it was LLM-speak? Isn't it possible that people write like this naturally? |
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| ▲ | wewewedxfgdf 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | I think LLM's have that sort of "summarise, wrap it in a bow tie, give a little dramatic punch as a preview to the next few points". | | |
| ▲ | cyanydeez 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Guys, LLMs are build on all these social cues which were developed pre-model. There's atleast 10 years of pre-llm gibberish. This is to say: Marketers and spammers repeat the same things over and over, and these models are build on coalescing repetition into the basis. So yeah, of course people talked like this before, but it was always in some known context like linked in or a spam website. | | |
| ▲ | fwip 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Sure, but RLHF ended up emphasizing this to a level beyond normal human writing. |
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| ▲ | spicyusername 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Arguably it's exactly because it was used naturally so often that the LLMs parrot it so frequently. | |
| ▲ | trvz 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Yes. Some people are very trigger happy in attributing human slop to LLMs. | |
| ▲ | steveharing1 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | [dead] |
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| ▲ | nwatson 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Nate B Jones videos ... YouTube channel "AI News and Strategy Daily" channel uses all of these. Every video. |
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| ▲ | bityard 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I listened to a lot of NPR podcasts before LLM were around, and most of them are full of these kinds of filler phrases. |
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| ▲ | riknos314 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The general concept of a hook with delayed payoff is far from new, and generally one of the better ways at keeping attention. It's also exactly the Mr beast playbook, and got him to the largest channel on YouTube. Any system attempting to capture human attention will use these techniques, nothing LLM-specific here at all. |
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| ▲ | Lerc 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Apparently John Oliver was an LLM before they were even invented. |