at this level they just decide and spin up a swat team to execute it in a couple weeks without politicking. the bureaucratic ways, reviews are just for the low levels, to keep them busy with feature scraps while they mostly do operations

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aab99 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

yup, I think there are few public articles on aws mantle so you can look it up, but internally this is pretty common knowledge. The entire inference engine of bedrock is built and maintained by a handful of ec2 engineers (all principals and above). Judging by the commit history of the project they are able to just build independent of any of the traditional bureaucracy.

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33MHz-i486 9 hours ago | parent [-]

the way in which Mantle was built is highlighted internally by PEs as some sort of triumph but really its a fairly tone deaf indicted of AWS’s engineering culture ... “To achieve a meaningful result in a reasonable amount of time we had to break nearly ever constraint that we force all other engineers to work under. good luck to you plebs of L6 and below”

	▲	darkwater 43 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I'm going to play devil's advocate here: _what if_ most of lower level engineers are actually not able to self-organize themselves like this dedicated, I bet hand-picked group of PE can? I'm pretty sure AWS ruthless culture would gladly use less middle-managers and be swifter in time to market if it were so easy, no? What works for a single, highly-focused project (or a handful of similar situations) doesn't scale when you have to take care of bazillion customers, do boring/smaller tasks and keep the machine ticking.
	▲	spelunker 7 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Check out this all of this stuff we can build with a room full of PEs and no rules!

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o10449366 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Lol, spinning up swat teams because someone high up decides "drop everything this is my pet priority now" is politicking. It looks good for the leaders, meanwhile its the engineers pulling the all nighters and dealing with having to maintain systems that are operationally compromised from day 0 because there's no proper planning/scoping involved other than "Big Man says this needs to be done in 2 weeks"

	▲	tt24 7 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Okay but I’ll be able to use OpenAI models on bedrock now Why would I care if AWS asks their engineers to work a little harder on a project
	▲	phillipcarter 12 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		Sure, but also... ...anyone with a brain at AWS knows that supporting OpenAI's latest models on Bedrock is simply good for AWS. That context is rather important!
	▲	ignoramous 6 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		> engineers pulling the all nighters There's always some carrot with the stick, even if an imaginary one!