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| ▲ | Cider9986 2 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| In the USA, I think most people can easily afford a Pixel 9a at $56/year of device support starting from today. Calculator checks yearly cost based on device support: (https://ibb.co/xq82YQCw) Sources for device lifetime from calculator: (https://grapheneos.org/faq#device-lifetime) I used a New+Unlocked+Pixel+X on eBay to find a rough price of the phone. Most people get scammed by their carrier and pay $25-45 per month just for their wireless subscription, and many more get caught up in the device bundles which gets you the "latest and greatest", at a huge price. So people are paying, per month, what you can pay, per year for a Pixel. You can use Silent Link to pay by the gigabyte with no expiration date. Most people don't need unlimited—I use a maximum of 5 GB per month, and my average is around 3. At $1.60 per month, that is $60 per YEAR for me. Swap in https://jmp.chat for another 60 dollars per year for calls/texts and you get a $120/year phone bill which is just $10/month. I will be moving from US Mobile to Jmp.chat once my plan expires. You could also use US Mobile for $17/month which is unlimited and is user friendly. They also often have Pixels for a significant discount with no lock-in. |
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| ▲ | bloppe 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| If you're considering buying an iPhone, you can definitely afford a Pixel |
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| ▲ | BatteryMountain 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Yes, but no pixels in my country. | | |
| ▲ | mh- a day ago | parent | next [-] | | It's all vector graphics? | |
| ▲ | greenavocado a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | eBay International exists and I've shipped my laptops from the US to Bolivia, Guam, Sweden, and before the war, Russia. You can definitely get a Pixel unless maybe you live in the DRC or the PRK |
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| ▲ | bpev 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Motorola + Graphene coming 2027. I'm at least waiting to see what comes of that before making any decisions on my next phone. |
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| ▲ | Cider9986 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | I am hyped for that partnership—they should have a flip phone supported(don't quote me), among other cool devices. Not going to be cheaper than Pixels. The chips they need for the hardware security are the flagship Snapdragon chips iirc. I love my Pixel now, I would have to see where Motorola is better than the Pixels other than the more computing power. | |
| ▲ | sterlind a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | hell yes. I'm glad they found an OEM to work with them. |
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| ▲ | microtonal 21 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| A Pixel 9a is ~350 Euro here in Europe and it still has better device security (separate secure enclave, MTE, etc.) than pretty much any other phone besides iPhone and other Pixels. Pretty great cameras for the price too. Still supported until 2032 (so presumably also on GrapheneOS). |
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| ▲ | spurgu 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I get you. I used to buy Nexus devices as well as some of the first Pixels, until at some point the prices shot up to ridiculous levels for a phone and I went with other brands. Last year though the Pixel 8a was selling for 350€ and I got one. Luckily, given the recent developments. Will be installing GrapheneOS. |
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| ▲ | compass_copium 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I bought an 8a new when it launched for the express purpose of installing GOS. It cost like $450, and will last me most of a decade. If you are using a phone that costs significantly less than that (and I am speaking from personal experience! I had an Obamaphone that I got at a foodbank for many years, as well as a number of crappy used Androids!) your phone storage is so limiting that you are struggling to install more than a few apps. |
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| ▲ | Dylan16807 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | > If you are using a phone that costs significantly less than that (and I am speaking from personal experience! I had an Obamaphone that I got at a foodbank for many years, as well as a number of crappy used Androids!) your phone storage is so limiting that you are struggling to install more than a few apps. The only phone I've ever had trouble installing more than a few apps was one with 512MB of storage. If I go check the second result on amazon for android phone it's a solid motorola option, unlocked for $127 and with 128GB. That's more than enough; even some flagships have 128GB. The "just over $100" range has multiple options with good storage. Below that is a sea of locked/refurbished phones that are also good options in many cases. Digging deeper I eventually hit a "BLU" brand phone for $50 with only 16GB, and that leaves you with not very much after the OS takes its space. But then you can add $10 to get another 16GB and have more than enough room for apps. So you have to go really low to have the problem you're describing. | | |
| ▲ | compass_copium 2 days ago | parent [-] | | I have never had a cheap phone where OS updates did not make the category in storage swell to take up most of the phone's space. Hardware may be cheap enough now that budget phones are more useable--32 GB for <$100 is a major improvement. | | |
| ▲ | Dylan16807 2 days ago | parent [-] | | I'm used to fixed partition sizes. The OS eating into user space sounds pretty ugly. And updates to builtin apps since the last OS update eat space, but only so much. Regardless, since they have a 16GB model I strongly doubt the 32GB model would ever have less than 16GB of usable space. |
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| ▲ | BrenBarn 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | I've bought Motorola phones that cost less than half of that and still last for 3-5 years and I've been able to install far more than "a few" apps. Having an SD card slot is great for offloading the big storage uses like photos/video. |
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| ▲ | subscribed 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| That's £105-£150 for first two pixels 6a on ebay. If you consider getting iPhone you DEFINITELY can afford something much newer than that. |
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| ▲ | BatteryMountain 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Don't have pixels in my country. Apple only alternative. And a bunch of chinese brands which I wont touch in this scenario |
