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nubinetwork 5 hours ago

This was hugely overblown in the media... While the device operates like a stingray, they were using it to spam and phish. The whole claim of "we've never seen this type of device before in Canada" is a lie, because the government and law enforcement both use them. I guess it's okay if they do it, but nobody else can...

kevin_thibedeau an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> hugely overblown

Did they graciously forward emergency calls and text messages to the real phone network?

echelon 14 minutes ago | parent [-]

Hopefully nobody in the area was an oncall surgeon, engineer, etc.

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mc32 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yes I think they mean they hadn’t seen it used before outside of sanctioned organizations. Though one could argue some bad actors inside the org likely used it outside of official capacity though not likely with knowledge or approval by superiors.

boneitis 12 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I don't buy it. To me, it'd be like hearing them say "we've never seen spam/scam phone call campaigns before!"

This loses all believability, given the fact that i can reliably go out of town to a different area code and immediately start getting phishing/scam/robo calls from numbers of said area code. Granted, i am U.S.'ian.

anigbrowl 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Wouldn't it be great if public officials would say what they in fact mean the first time?

rdevilla 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Torontonians are hardwired to be incapable of speaking like this.

bigiain 2 hours ago | parent [-]

And law enforcement are trained to speak a language with sounds like english, but isn't, and which makes no sense.

https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/an-interactive-guide-to-...

(A long-ish read, but totally worth it. the "punch line" is beautiful.)

rdevilla 44 minutes ago | parent [-]

Poetry.

tamimio 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

To add, ISED literally goes around in cars to scan for non registered BTS (or even non conforming ones) and report them, sometimes (or a lot of times) they catch false positives when the interference happens to be a strong LED lol. The gov uses the tech to ID individuals however, especially in group gatherings or around certain locations, always look around for big vans with no windows :), I either don’t take my phone or it’s always on airplane mode until I want to disable it briefly before activating it again.

panny 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

A government backdoor was found and abused by criminals? No one could have predicted this! :)

QuantumNomad_ 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Isn’t it less of a government backdoor and more of a result of generally old and insecure protocols still being in use for telecom?

Like, the phones happily connect to these fake towers because the signal is strongest from that one and there is no authentication to verify who the tower belongs to, nor encryption of SMSes?

Jolter 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It’s not exactly a back door. It’s a fake radio cell, mimicking your network provider and acting like a man in the middle. In that sense, it’s like a stingray. The differences are

1. The Stingray eavesdrops, but avoids interfering with user traffic

2. The stingray is operated by law enforcement, not by fraudsters looking to steal your money

AngryData 3 hours ago | parent [-]

In mamy parts of the US, the cops are the fraudsters looking to steal your money. So it isn't that much of a difference.