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pelorat 3 hours ago

In the case of the military I'd say the real reason is political. After the fall of the Berlin wall, Europe collectively agreed (knowingly or not) that war is now a thing of the past and the goal should be the complete dismantling of militaries worldwide, starting with Europe. Lead by example, etc.

rini17 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's subtler than that. Europe was just constantly reminded by its big brother not to duplicate NATO structures, which are dependent on the US.

don_esteban 8 minutes ago | parent [-]

This.

Plus, of course, each European country has to support their own defense industry, so each one of them needs to have their own howitzer/tank/whatever and they can't agree on common approach that would actually allow for the economy of scale.

brabel 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

They agreed that war was a thing of the past, but still continued to push for NATO to allow new members anyway, ironically causing Russia (and China and everyone who is NOT in NATO) to suspect that war was NOT a thing of the past and therefore never quite abandoning their military completely. Unpopular opinion: the West should either NEVER have abandoned its military production (so as to maintain NATO actual preparedness for war, given that's the only reason for its existence) OR it should just have dismantled NATO and announced to the world that it strongly believes war is a thing of the past, and that other countries are advised to follow suit. But we actually chose the easy, halfway path: keep NATO, keep our militaries "looking strong" (which gives the signal our rivals should also do the same, obviously), but not actually be ready for any sort of major war and as the article points out, even lose actual capacity to become ready for war within any realistic timeframe. The worst possible outcome :(.

avmich 5 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

It could be matching theory for outcome though. The unpopular opinion may still be wrong too. Russia was quite different in 1999, or better in 1992, to the point of joining NATO, and China was nowhere the threat of today, and it could be different reasons- not keeping NATO - which caused today's standup. So, basically, the situation seem to be more complex.

LtWorf 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

USA had no part in that push?

0xDEAFBEAD 27 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

NATO expansion was pretty controversial in the US

https://time.com/archive/6731121/how-clinton-decided-on-nato...

bluGill an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Perhaps but the US was pushing NATO to invest more in war for years suggesting they didn't believe war was in the past

don_esteban 7 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Correction: The US was pushing NATO to invest more in US gear.

LtWorf an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

That's because they have more to gain from that.