You see zero similarities between Hitler invading Poland and Putin invading Ukraine?

There are some pretty substantial differences. Russia is on the strategic back foot here trying to figure out a way to stop NATO's advance. They've only turned to violence after long attempts at resolving the tension diplomatically and the US has been implacable. Putin's actually been pretty hesitant in his escalations so far; he's 70 and has a long history of trying to avoid war.

Hitler was more about wanting more land and resources for Germany, and he saw war as being a legitimate tool for achieving his aims that he deployed early and enthusiastically.

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defrost 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

NATO has advanced into which part of Russia?

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roenxi 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Not Russia, Eastern Europe - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enlargement_of_NATO

	▲	defrost an hour ago \| parent [-]
		So, NATO hasn't advanced into Russia then? Just Russia advancing into the Ukraine (after promising not to if the USSR nukes were given to Russia)? Gotcha.

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collinfunk 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> There are some pretty substantial differences. Russia is on the strategic back foot here trying to figure out a way to stop NATO's advance.

His rationale for invading Ukraine was to "demilitarise and denazify" it. The NATO point seems largely be invented by people who dislike NATO in the west.

> They've only turned to violence after long attempts at resolving the tension diplomatically and the US has been implacable.

I hope the "tension" you are referring to was not the little green men taking over Crimea and the Donbas in 2014.

> Putin's actually been pretty hesitant in his escalations so far; he's 70 and has a long history of trying to avoid war.

This is a totally unseriousness statement. Can you remind me what Putin was doing in Syria again?

	▲	roenxi 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		There's an english transcript [0] of his speech from when they went in up on the Kremin website. He opened with something like > I will begin with what I said in my address on February 21, 2022. I spoke about our biggest concerns and worries, and about the fundamental threats which irresponsible Western politicians created for Russia consistently, rudely and unceremoniously from year to year. I am referring to the eastward expansion of NATO, which is moving its military infrastructure ever closer to the Russian border. They're claiming the NATO thing is relevant. Opening paragraph justification. [0] http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/transcripts/67843

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wiseowise 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Russia is on the strategic back foot here trying to figure out a way to stop NATO's advance. They've only turned to violence after long attempts at resolving the tension diplomatically and the US has been implacable. Putin's actually been pretty hesitant in his escalations so far; he's 70 and has a long history of trying to avoid war.

Is that why Russians rejected negotiations when Ukraine offered to never join NATO and Russians insist on keeping invaded territories?

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8954789543547 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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