| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 4 hours ago |
| What are the equivalent institutions in China? Do they do open houses? |
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| ▲ | Aurornis 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| I disagree with this move, but the people who lost these positions were in temporary advisory roles. This isn’t a career job for them. The article says 8 members are replaced every 2 years and the terms are 6 years long. Between 1/4 or 1/2 of them would have been replaced during this presidency, and whoever gets placed now will start to be replaced by the next administration. As for China: They’re not known for having independent advisory committees overseeing government decisions. They’re definitely not known for inviting foreigners to come join their government to oversee their spending. So if you’re implying these people are at risk of going to China to serve the same role, that’s way off the mark. |
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| ▲ | jazzyjackson 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I expect this will have downstream effects on more careers than just these 24 people. | |
| ▲ | citizenkeen 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I don’t share your optimism that these positions will be replaced. I don’t know why you think they would be. | | |
| ▲ | huxley 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Oh they’ll be replaced, by toadies and GOP Youth interns looking for a salary and resume boost | | |
| ▲ | lacy_tinpot 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Exactly! We all know which part has the only truly correct answers, totally free from propaganda and bias! Everyone else are toadies and "GOP" Youth. It's like totally obvious that our team is the only correct answer. | | |
| ▲ | SpicyLemonZest 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | We're just telling you what the President says! It's his explicit position, which he repeats constantly, that everyone in the government should be personally loyal to him and never do anything he doesn't want them to do. If you'd prefer for his side not to be full of toadies, you'll have to take it up with him; he's making a conscious decision to do things that way. |
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| ▲ | tensor 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Oh so only 1/2 to 3/4 of them were terminated far outside of norms. I guess only 50%-75% corrupt anti-science activity is totally ok. | |
| ▲ | joe_mamba 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | >The article says 8 members are replaced every 2 years and the terms are 6 years long. So it's similar to working for the UN or IAEA where most jobs are fixed term. |
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| ▲ | bdangubic 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It would be quite amazing if people in the US realized how much brain went to China in the last 16 months. I am a govie (contractor) and just what I know alone is … |
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| ▲ | smegma2 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Why not find out and let us know? You’re implying an answer without knowing what it is |
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| ▲ | joe_mamba 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Why do you ask? Do you assume those fired NSF workers want to go work in China now? Or that China manages its domestic variant of the NSF better and accepts people critical of the CCP ideology? |
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| ▲ | fc417fc802 15 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | I would tend to assume that the people overseeing the NSF are accomplished scientists. China has been more than happy to recruit those for at least the past couple decades. That said, I doubt this move negatively impacts their careers so I don't expect this alone would motivate any of them to leave the country. Other things might though. > Or that China manages its domestic variant of the NSF better Prior to Trump probably yes. Post Trump almost certainly. > and accepts people critical of the CCP ideology? Obviously not. But why are you assuming that those removed from their posts were vocal critics of the CCP? | |
| ▲ | throwaway27448 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Most people in china are not members of the CPC. And yes, they clearly are more competent. | | |
| ▲ | joe_mamba 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | gverrilla 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > The country has a social credit score Fake news. | |
| ▲ | XorNot 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | "but China is worse!" is an excuse wearing well past paper thin at this point. | |
| ▲ | solid_fuel 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > The country has a social credit score Yeah that is concerning. Glad the US doesn't have any sort of credit scoring system that might make it hard to get out of poverty. That would be really scary. Imagine if you had to pass a credit check to get an apartment! |
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| ▲ | Spooky23 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Our entire economy is built on scientific advancement and advantage. The dismantling of everything to maximize executive power in order to maximize grift and corruption will have effects for decades. This is the American version of the cultural revolution. We’re pushing people to be plumbers instead of scientists. | | |
| ▲ | throwworhtthrow an hour ago | parent [-] | | > Our entire economy is built on scientific advancement and advantage. Devil's advocate: Only productivity gains, not the entire economy, are built on scientific advancement. But wages haven't grown with productivity in half a century, so the loss of scientific advantage won't affect wage growth, therefore the economy will be fine. (I know it's not convincing, but it's the best I can conjure.) |
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