Hustle and vitality borne out of generally horrible conditions. I'll take what the "first world" has any day.

Hard times make for strong men (and women)...

This might be cliche, but it has truth to it. Nothing drives production and innovation quite like scarcity and financial adversity.

Yep. And then it reverses, and then again, and again...

Well, that is what's in the ellipsis in the parent's quote:

"Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times" G. Michael Hopf

	▲	volkk a day ago \| parent [-]
		I know thanks. i was mostly just replying to the last sentence of their comment like in a conversation