> I've tried using qwen and deepseek but they can't even output documents

What agent harness did you use? Usually, "write_file", "shell_exec" or similar is two of the first tools you add to an agent harness, after read_file/list_files. If it doesn't have those tools, unsure if you could even call it a agent harness in the first place.

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jxmesth 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Sorry for the confusion, I was actually talking about their Web based chat. Since most of my work is governance and docs, I just use their Web chats and they just refuse to output proper documents like Claude or Chatgpt do.

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embedding-shape 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Aha... Well, I let Codex (Claude Code would work too) manage/troubleshoot .xlsx files too, seems to handle it just fine (it tends to un-archive them and browse the resulting XML files without issues), seen it do similar stuff for .app and .docx files too so maybe give that a try with other harnesses/models too, they might get it :)

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noduerme 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You're not giving an AI command line access to your work computer? How do you expect to keep up? /s

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dymk 2 hours ago | parent [-]

You give it command line access in a VM...

	▲	koen_hendriks 29 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		You mean a VM like the one that contains a 0day that can escape the sandbox that gets found every year at pwn2own?