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ponector 6 hours ago

You bought a car with some range, you are fine with it. Why you have to replace it with longer range?

Should I be able to eventually replace gas tank with the larger one in my ICE vehicle?

thangalin 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> you are fine with it.

Why not ask me my motivations instead of assuming them?

I'm not fine with the range; I bought an EV to stop burning fossil fuels, my 24-year-old RAV4 was on its last leg, and there was a $6K bonus for trade-ins (my RAV4 would have been about $5k in parts).

Plus, the long-term cost savings kick in after about 8 years, which I blogged about at: https://dave.autonoma.ca/blog/2019/08/06/typesetting-markdow...

> Why you have to replace it with longer range?

Because I want to explore the interior of BC, drive across Canada on fewer charges, visit family, go on road trips, etc. Just yesterday I spent 30 minutes trying to charge my Kona. It's a long and boring story, but suffice to say our charging infrastructure here sucks, and is not as simple, quick, or convenient as "tap-to-pay" (with a credit card) at petrol stations.

jandrewrogers 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Should I be able to eventually replace gas tank with the larger one in my ICE vehicle?

FWIW, that is actually a thing you can do. It is mostly done for SUVs and pickups since the primary use case for the extra range is off-pavement driving and the upgrade is simpler.

carefree-bob 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yes to both. Why not?

volemo 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Batteries degrade, you know.

gambiting 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes, which is why they are replacable, and Hyundai is bound by law to keep making batteries for OP's Kona for a good while even after the production stops.

carefree-bob 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Unfortunately Hyundai is not required by law to keep making batteries. They are only legally required to provide for warranty support for up to 10 years after a car is made. Usually that means you keep making parts, but I'm not sure how this works with EVs.

But the window is 10 years. After that, you rely on market forces -- if there is a profit to be made from making the part, then it is made. Heavily cars rely on aftermarket parts, but the question of a battery is a bit different.

Again, we need open source cars, with open source designs, so that batteries can be repaired, upgraded, and replaced by an aftermarket. I keep pushing this and hope I'm not being tedious, but people are underestimating the risk to the consumer.