Actually, a lot would change. Each one of the Ukrainian lives destroyed is a whole life destroyed. A damaged car is a setback for a family. There are whole cities and villages razed in Ukraine, fields polluted or rigged with explosives. Countless lives lost; each person's story and potential ended by some Russian's "command-following" drone or missile strike.

No, Russia isn't the only one, but _is_ a cause of a lot of suffering and resources wasted.

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thatsamejew2 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Ukrainian war is totally western creation. There was no Russian interest to start the war, actually the interest was NOT to start a war. You just made it close to impossible not to.

The rest is (mainly) lies you continue telling the people living in Ukraine, encouraging the Ukranian nationalists just as the germans did in WWII.

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gljiva 29 minutes ago | parent [-]

If Russia didn't want a war there wouldn't be one. I didn't make anything.

As someone living in a country with a hostile neighbour, I'm glad the governments currently continue to coexist, even if mine could get an economic advantage or "a safety buffer" by invading the other. NATO's peaceful expansion towards east is not just, but it isn't a sufficient cause of war either, far from it.

	▲	nullorempty 3 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		>NATO's Peaceful expansion towards east Thanks, that gave me a chuckle. Why were they expanding? Why did they have biolabs in Ukraine? Why did B. Johnson halted peace talks? Why did Merkel say Minsk agreements were only meant to buy Ukraine time to arm itself? Arm for what? Things are more complicated, I don't think either country had a choice.

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nullorempty 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

A lot would change for a few, not for the 8b people on this planet.

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gljiva 38 minutes ago | parent [-]

I am considering the absolute impact on those affected, which is the most relevant for this discussion. Millions are not "a few". And it's absolutely unnecessary, the aggressor has always been in the position to pull back and leave (or not attack at all). Everyone but _a few_ war profiteers suffers from war, because it requires hours of work (weapons) diverted towards destroying other hours of work (cars, houses, infrastructure), occupying workers' time by ordering them to kill future workers, all of which could go towards increasing production instead of decreasing it, which does affect global markets and thus people globally.

	▲	nullorempty 30 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Both sides had the option to de-escalate. All Ukraine needed to do is to implement Minks agreements instead of killing ppl of donbass.