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nullorempty 2 hours ago

Both sides had the option to de-escalate. All Ukraine needed to do is to implement Minks agreements instead of killing ppl of donbass.

gljiva 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Had? Ukraine still has the option to capitulate and give up its territory, what kind of argument is that? Separatists who take up arms are a fair target, they are the ones violently changing the status quo. When both sides kill civilians in a war started by one side, that side's further escalation is not at all justified by "killing ppl of donbass", so let's not manipulatively paint a "both sides" picture as if there isn't a huge difference

nullorempty an hour ago | parent [-]

2014 coup ousted democratically elected president. Some people disagreed.

Minsk agreement was supposed to solve it peacefully. Alas, the intention of the agreement was to build-up ukraine's army for war with russia.

War was in the cards already really. Still is - all out europe vs russia war.