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nslsm 2 hours ago

It looks like they are proud of their country and want to keep it as is. They’ve seen what limitless immigration did to other countries and want none of it. Respect to them.

GuB-42 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Switzerland has a fertility rate of about 1.4 and decreasing, unless they do something, there won't be much of a country left in a few generations. Solutions can involve immigration or natalism, but something has to change.

Japan is worse.

dublinstats 3 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Or significantly increasing life-expectancy. Or new fertility technologies. A few generations is a long time.

The birth rates of the immigrant waves would presumably just plummet quickly anyway as they join the culture. Since that seems to have happened with all our other health problems.

rayiner an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don’t know anything about Switzerland, but immigration isn’t a solution to the prospect of Japan “not having a country left in a few generations.” There might be more or fewer people living on the islands, but “Japan” will be gone either way.

nslsm 14 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The solution to a low fertility rate is to… destroy the country? What’s the difference?

mothballed 9 minutes ago | parent [-]

No one wants an actual answer that would definitely work, which is to ban or curtail education of women, ban the sale of birth control, and to tie social security retirement benefits to the number of children you have raised. The Taliban did this and it likely does more for pumping up the numbers of all their little baby terrorists than any scheme the West has concocted.

So instead we get stuff like "more money or time off" which turns out doesn't really do dick, "more support for children" which turns into a gazillion social workers up your ass for the tiniest perceived sin in raising your child, or "free childcare" with the caveat that if anything goes wrong our glorious progressive family courts will absolutely financialy ass-rape you taking 20% + alimony + half and now you have to pay taxes for everyone else's "free" childcare out of that leaving you nothing more than a van to sleep in while your liberated ex-wife buys a nice pair of shoes and a new car with the latest check.

As it turns out birthing and raising children just really fucking sucks, and people can "release" their need to give parental energy 99% of the way by having 1 child that they just give more attention to without all the drawbacks of pumping out 3 or 4 more. There is no flowery Western Karen pleasing program you can wrap that up into.

slaw 41 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Africa has fertility rate 4.02 in 2025. Do you want Switzerland look like Africa?

Thorrez 10 minutes ago | parent [-]

There are numbers in between 1.4 and 4.02. There's no reason Switzerland would need to swing to the complete opposite end.

kakacik an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

This is the correct reality. If there would be public vote in surrounding countries, ie mosques would be banned there too (btw those standing and having permit before the vote keep functioning).

But none of the german, french, italian etc politicians have the balls to let society decide for themselves, controversial topic or not. And people then wonder why in extremely left-leaning country like France there is high popularity for extreme right parties.

Maybe british with their one self-kneecaping brexit vote cured them, but public voting in general was never on the table.

Swiss are the most free nation globally. At least I havent hears of any on similar level. They vote responsibly, heck they have 3x the amount of immigrants per capita then next top country in Europe, but they want only people who can find work there, plus they host tons of refugees. And yes they dont want to lose their unique identity, they have enough examples around them to be wary and smart. I'd say they do their share and some more

raw_anon_1111 18 minutes ago | parent [-]

Why ban just mosques? Let’s ban churches too. When will the Catholic organization be held accountable for decades of child abuse?

mothballed 13 minutes ago | parent [-]

I'm not saying you should ban mosques but when they do the whole call to prayer thing at 2am, I understand. Guessing you've never had to sleep any extended period of time near a mosque. If church bells rudely woke me up at 2am I'd understand the church banners too.

raw_anon_1111 7 minutes ago | parent [-]

Well maybe molesting children and covering it up should be more of a reason to ban churches.

But I agree that should come under noise ordinances. I don’t care who someone chooses to worship as long as it doesn’t interfere with me.