| ▲ | GuB-42 3 hours ago |
| Switzerland has a fertility rate of about 1.4 and decreasing, unless they do something, there won't be much of a country left in a few generations. Solutions can involve immigration or natalism, but something has to change. Japan is worse. |
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| ▲ | dublinstats 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Or significantly increasing life-expectancy. Or new fertility technologies. A few generations is a long time. The birth rates of the immigrant waves would presumably just plummet quickly anyway as they join the culture. Since that seems to have happened with all our other health problems. |
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| ▲ | rayiner 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I don’t know anything about Switzerland, but immigration isn’t a solution to the prospect of Japan “not having a country left in a few generations.” There might be more or fewer people living on the islands, but “Japan” will be gone either way. |
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| ▲ | LAC-Tech an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| A lot of people would rather live in their own aged society than a slightly younger foreign one. Emphasis on slightly younger. Fertility is declining basically everywhere. Much of the developing world is now below replacement including India and China. |
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| ▲ | slaw 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Africa has fertility rate 4.02 in 2025. Do you want Switzerland look like Africa? |
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| ▲ | Thorrez 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | There are numbers in between 1.4 and 4.02. There's no reason Switzerland would need to swing to the complete opposite end. | |
| ▲ | LAC-Tech an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Africas fertility rate is declining massively as well. | | |
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| ▲ | nslsm 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| The solution to a low fertility rate is to… destroy the country? What’s the difference? |
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| ▲ | mothballed 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | No one wants an actual answer that would definitely work, which is to ban or curtail education of women, ban the sale of birth control, and to tie social security retirement benefits to the number of children you have raised. The Taliban did this and it likely does more for pumping up the numbers of all their little baby terrorists than any scheme the West has concocted. So instead we get stuff like "more money or time off" which turns out doesn't really do dick, "more support for children" which turns into a gazillion social workers up your ass for the tiniest perceived sin in raising your child, or "free childcare" with the caveat that if anything goes wrong our glorious progressive family courts will absolutely financialy ass-rape you taking 20% + alimony + half and now you have to pay taxes for everyone else's "free" childcare out of that leaving you nothing more than a van to sleep in while your liberated ex-wife buys a nice pair of shoes and a new car with the latest check. As it turns out birthing and raising children just really fucking sucks, and people can "release" their need to give parental energy 99% of the way by having 1 child that they just give more attention to without all the drawbacks of pumping out 3 or 4 more. There is no flowery Western Karen pleasing program you can wrap that up into. |
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