| ▲ | desugun 8 hours ago |
| I guess our conscience of OpenAI working with the Department of War has an expiry date of 6 weeks. |
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| ▲ | arcanemachiner 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| That number is generous, and is also a pretty decent lifespan for a socially-conscious gesture in 2026. |
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| ▲ | Findeton 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| We all liked the Terminator movies. Hopefully the stay as movies. |
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| ▲ | yoyohello13 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I quoted 2 weeks at the time. I think even that was generous. |
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| ▲ | adamtaylor_13 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Most people just want to use a tool that works. Not everything has to be a damn moral crusade. |
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| ▲ | martimarkov 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Yes, let take morality out of our daily lives as much as possible... That seems like a great categorical imperative and a recipe for social success | | |
| ▲ | cmrdporcupine 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | There's nothing moral about Anthropic. Especially to those of us who are not American citizens and to which Dario's pronouncements about ethics apparently do not apply, as stated in his own press release. To me it just looks like a big sanctimonious festival of hypocrisy. | |
| ▲ | adamtaylor_13 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | That's an incredibly uncharitable take on what I said. But that kind of proves my point. Foist your morality upon everyone else and burden them with your specific conscience; sounds like a fun time. | | |
| ▲ | freak42 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | What is the charitable way to look at it then? | | |
| ▲ | adamtaylor_13 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | How about assuming the positive intent of what I actually said? Not everything has to be a moral crusade. Let me use the tool without pushing your personal moral opinions on me. The same person wringing their hands over OpenAI, buys clothing made from slave labor and wrote that comment using a device with rare earth materials gotten from slave labor. Why is OpenAI the line? Why are they allowed to "exploit people" and I'm not? Taken to its logical conclusion it's silly. And instead of engaging with that, they deflect with oH yEaH lEtS hAvE nO mOrAlS which is clearly not what I'm advocating. |
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| ▲ | some_furry 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yeah, why actually engage with moral issues when we can just defer to a status quo that happens to benefit me? |
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| ▲ | causal 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | "Not everything" - sure, but mass surveillance and autonomous killing are kind of big things to sweep under that rug no? |
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| ▲ | cmrdporcupine 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Thing is that Anthropic was always working with DoD, too, and the line in the sand they drew looked really noble until I found it didn't not apply to me, a non-US citizen. Dario made it clear that was the case. And so the difference, to me, was irrelevant. I'll buy based on value, and keep a poker in the fire of Chinese & European open weight models, as well. |
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| ▲ | nothinkjustai 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Not everyone is American, and people who are not see Anthropic state they are willing to spy on our countries and shrug about OAI saying the same about America. What’s the difference to us? |
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| ▲ | riffraff 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | if you're not american you should be worried about the bit of using AI to kill people which was the other major objection by Anthropic. (not that I think the US DoD wouldn't do that anyway, ToS or not.) | | |
| ▲ | 8note 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | well, if they put in a fully automated kill chain, its gonna be weak to attacks to make yourself look like a car, or a video game styled "hide under a box" the current non-automated kill chain has targeted fishermen and a girl's school. Nobody is gonna be held accountable for either. Am i worried about the killing or the AI? If i'm worried about the killing, id much rather push for US demilitarization. | |
| ▲ | pdimitar 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | OK, I am worried. Now, what can I actually do? | | |
| ▲ | ArmadilloGang 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Vote with your dollar. Ask others to do the same and explain why. If we all did this, it might matter. There’s not a lot else an individual can do. | | |
| ▲ | cmrdporcupine 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | Dario in fact said it was ok to spy and drone non-US citizens, and in fact endorsed American foreign policy generally. So, no, I'm not voting with my wallet for one American country versus the other. I'll pick the best compromise product for me, and then also boost non-American R&D where I can. |
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| ▲ | addandsubtract 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Vote with your wallet, just like Americans. | |
| ▲ | sieabahlpark 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | [dead] |
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| ▲ | stavros 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Anthropic's issue was only that the AI isn't yet good enough to tell who's an American, so it avoids killing them. They were fine with the "killing non-Americans" bit. | |
| ▲ | nothinkjustai 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Not only is Anthropic perfectly happy to let the DoD use their products to kill people, but they are partners with Palantir and were apparently instrumental in the strikes against Iran by the US military. https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2026/03/04/anthrop... So uh, yeah, the only difference I see between OAI and Anthropic is that one is more honest about what they’re willing to use their AI for. |
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| ▲ | PunchTornado 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| neah, I believe most people here, which immediately brag about codex, are openai employees doing part of their job. otherwise I couldn't possibly phantom why would anyone use codex. In my company 80% is claude and 15% gemini. you can barely see openai on the graph. and we have >5k programmers using ai every day. |
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| ▲ | muyuu 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Currently GPT just works much better, and so does Gemini but it's more expensive right now. Going through Opencode stats, their claim is that Gemini is the current best model followed by GPT 5.4 on their benchmarks, but the difference is slim. My personal experience is best with GPT but it could be the specific kind of work I use it for which is heavy on maths and cpp (and some LISP). | |
| ▲ | EQmWgw87pw 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I’m thinking the same thing, Codex literally ruined the codebases that I experimented with it on. | |
| ▲ | scottyah 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | OpenAI replaced its founding engineers with Meta PMs. The shift towards consumer engagement metrics and marketing is apparent. | |
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| ▲ | Klayy 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | You can believe whatever you want. I found claude unusable due to limits. Codex works very well for my use cases. |
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| ▲ | Der_Einzige 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Longer than how long anyone cared about epstein. |
