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adamtaylor_13 8 hours ago

Most people just want to use a tool that works. Not everything has to be a damn moral crusade.

martimarkov 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yes, let take morality out of our daily lives as much as possible... That seems like a great categorical imperative and a recipe for social success

cmrdporcupine 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

There's nothing moral about Anthropic. Especially to those of us who are not American citizens and to which Dario's pronouncements about ethics apparently do not apply, as stated in his own press release.

To me it just looks like a big sanctimonious festival of hypocrisy.

adamtaylor_13 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That's an incredibly uncharitable take on what I said. But that kind of proves my point.

Foist your morality upon everyone else and burden them with your specific conscience; sounds like a fun time.

freak42 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

What is the charitable way to look at it then?

adamtaylor_13 5 hours ago | parent [-]

How about assuming the positive intent of what I actually said? Not everything has to be a moral crusade. Let me use the tool without pushing your personal moral opinions on me.

The same person wringing their hands over OpenAI, buys clothing made from slave labor and wrote that comment using a device with rare earth materials gotten from slave labor. Why is OpenAI the line? Why are they allowed to "exploit people" and I'm not?

Taken to its logical conclusion it's silly. And instead of engaging with that, they deflect with oH yEaH lEtS hAvE nO mOrAlS which is clearly not what I'm advocating.

some_furry 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeah, why actually engage with moral issues when we can just defer to a status quo that happens to benefit me?

causal 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

"Not everything" - sure, but mass surveillance and autonomous killing are kind of big things to sweep under that rug no?