I'm somewhat a fan of Mozilla, but their weak governance with regards to actual plans for the future, a couple of questionable partnerships, and the graveyard of products makes it hard to trust based on a 15+ year-old reputation. Would love to see where Mozilla has meaningfully contributed to the modern tech space (things we all actually use, not Mozilla versions of more popular apps/tools)

I worked in Mozilla previously for like 5-6 years. I think the supporter of Mozilla is a lot more trustworthy with privacy and data, but not Mozilla itself... I think they claiming that they do this and do that, but actually speak louder than action. My personal takes from the upper management is also not that good.

If you were not working with Mozilla Asian area, you know far too less. They had a browser in China that redirect to different website for profit before every connection and some affiliation. By doing so, is it privacy or not? Oh, look at Mozilla Japan volunteers, they shut everything up because things went wrong.

Hmyeah but many others like openwebui are self-hosted and open-source so it's not really like they are untrustworthy.

Yeah. Mozilla openly state that they DO sell your data.

How much of that privacy matters when you're connecting it to third-party agents/models?

This Mozilla?[1] The company whose 85% of revenue depends on an adtech giant?

They're certainly doing better than others in this space, but their track record does not inspire confidence for anyone concerned about their privacy and data.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla#Controversies

They have enough money for a legal dept. so I imagine so. But it's a confusing choice IMO. Not just because thunderbolt but also because thunderbird as someone else pointed out. But maybe they are trying to make thunder their 'thing', like apple puts an 'i' in front of everything?

Coming soon the browser rebrand to Thunderfox! :)