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This hyperbole does more to turn people away from Bluesky and other sites more than X to be honest. There are clearly lots of politically moderate, wholesome "politically inert," and international X users. The people who are vocal about having left seem more extreme and less tolerant to me.

Perhaps for related reasons, I've also recently heard Elon Musk being described as a "literal Nazi" a lot, and I'm sure that kind of wild rhetoric has a similar backfire effect with anyone who has any familiarity with him.

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Pay08 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

> The people who are vocal about having left seem more extreme and less tolerant to me.

That's because they are. Not all of them, of course, and not companies, but the general populace absolutely is.

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lynx97 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Well said. This is how I feel about Bluesky. I've read so many exaggregations from bsky users that I would definitely not want to join that sort of echo chamber. Better leave the extremists alone.

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OuterVale 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> I've also recently heard Elon Musk being described as a "literal Nazi" a lot

The chatbot run by his company has called itself 'MechaHitler' multiple times, and Musk himself did what is widely regarded as a Nazi salute during Trump's second inauguration.

	▲	repsilat 5 days ago \| parent [-]
		I guess to expand on my earlier post, it's generally a good thing that these kinds of absurd allegations are counterproductive and generally not convincing, because if they were more readily believable they would be quite irresponsible. Real violence has occurred because of beliefs (and posts) like this.

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hsbauauvhabzb 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The dude did a literal Nazi salute on stage. Twice. I don’t think it’s an exaggeration to call him a Nazi.

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eucyclos 5 days ago | parent [-]

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troad 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

Yes, let's get the protractors out to find out if the man who's turned Twitter into a far right cesspool, and has served in a far right government, and constantly tweets far right things, may just have far right sympathies. /s

Ceasing to believe what your own eyes and ears are telling you, in as far as those things may challenge your political beliefs, is generally a road that leads nowhere good.

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throwaway132448 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Are you proud of this comment? Is this the person you wanted to be when you were a kid? Disputing whether a Nazi salute was actually a Nazi salute because the executor of the Nazi salute doesn’t have the skill to execute it correctly?

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rob74 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Maybe describing him as a "literal Nazi" is a bit exaggerated (although there was that thing with the Nazi salute last year), but you only have to remember what he did at DOGE (https://edition.cnn.com/2026/02/04/world/lancet-usaid-global...) and maybe take a look at what he posts (and reposts) on X to realize that it's not too far from the truth...

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aaron695 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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hactually 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

The classic "if it disagrees with me, it's a far-right neo-Nazi" rhetoric. Sadly thiss is becoming depressingly common in certain corners of tech discourse.

X has the best AI news, the best virality for good content and sure - it has a lot of shit, but community notes and curated feeds keep the noise low.

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maxlin 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

This. No other platforms has a system akin to CN's. For me personally, I could never stand using any platform that is aggressively tone policed towards whatever official truth. Not Truth Social, not BlueSky.

Other places are like playgrounds, X is where the adults go to talk.

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KaiserPro 5 days ago | parent [-]

> any platform that is aggressively tone policed

all platforms are tone policed, yes even real life. If you don't notice it, you're either not looking, or you agree with the tone.

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rglullis 5 days ago | parent [-]

Not all platforms are agressive about the tone-policing and "real life" is not a platform. AFAIK, we still don't live in a world where the moneyed class get to set the rules about who is allowed to exist in "real life".

Also: scale and context matters. Someone telling you to shut up on a movie theater is not out of place, but whoever was next to you in the theater does not get to decide what you say in a bar or a PTA meetiing.

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KaiserPro 5 days ago | parent [-]

> AFAIK, we still don't live in a world where the moneyed class get to set the rules about who is allowed to exist in "real life".

I mean thats just the legal system, its also deciding what is taught in schools, or churches (other religions are available). Currently in the USA there is "tone policing" about trans people. Laws are being put in place to enforce a certain style of living for people who are trans. Regardless of you opinion of trans people, that is very much real life tone policing.

> but whoever was next to you in the theatre does not get to decide what you say in a bar or a PTA meeting.

but the people in the bar/PTA meeting do. In the same way that newspaper decide who to publish, TV which programmes to air, student organisations what cause to adopt, charities what people to fight for.

I think you are saying that one organisation doesn't get to control the patterns and types of speech for an entire country, which is mostly true apart from a authoritarian places.

But, each platform has its own tone, be that X, bluesky, the local darts club, PTA, or church. that tone is enforced by the people who support/take part in that platform. Those rules vary by factions that live on those platforms. The issue with X/bluesky etc is that they make money by deliberately forcing separate factions to engage. If you fall out with your local pub, you find a different pub, and hopefully never see those people again. But that pub is selling you pints, not advertising. so it needs to keep you happy to keep you buying pints.

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rglullis 5 days ago | parent [-]

> each platform has its own tone, be that X, bluesky, the local darts club, PTA, or church. that tone is enforced by the people who support/take part in that platform.

You are abusing the meaning of the word "platform" to try to create a false equivalence that can be used to justify the absurdity that present-day Twitter is.

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KaiserPro 5 days ago | parent [-]

> justify the absurdity that present-day Twitter is.

Present day twitter is one man's increasingly sad slide into authoritarian/contrarianism. It is a mess of idiocy and malignant individualism.

My point is, that twitter is nothing different, it has it's own tone. If you notice it, then twitter is not the place for you anymore. If you don't then twitter is the right place for you.

	▲	rglullis 5 days ago \| parent [-]
		> My point is, that twitter is nothing different And my point is that Twitter is different because it has become a direct instrument from one single man to proselytize and shape the conversation. > If you notice it, then twitter is not the place for you anymore. If you don't then twitter is the right place for you By your logic, I don't belong anywhere because I notice the tone everywhere.

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yalogin 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It still has the best AI news because users are not quitting it. Even the most fervent left leaning folks I know cannot quit it. Too bad it fell into the wrong hands and became a shell of its former self

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lynx97 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Its not just in tech circles. It really started around 2020 with C. "Everyone needs to agree this time" extremely backfired and ruined our ability to discuss things.

	▲	Pay08 5 days ago \| parent [-]
		Not really. George Orwell has noted this phenomenon in his 1946 book "Politics and the English Language". He attributes it to a knock-on effect of wartime propaganda.