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traceroute66 6 hours ago

Looking at it from an alternative angle, the Iranians are not stupid.

They know leaving the internet online would be beneficial for their adversaries, perhaps especially as Israel is one of them, and Israel's use of cyber is no secret.

So by killing the internet, they have an instant air-gap firewall.

Making the most of the levers they have fighting asymmetric warfare.

ifwinterco 15 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Yep, there is no country in the world where the elites wouldn't do similar things in this situation (an existential war).

It doesn't matter what your constitution says, western countries have readily adopted brutal censorship during serious wars virtually every time.

Failing to do so simply allows hostile foreign powers free reign in the information space domestically and increases the chance you lose

jncfhnb 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It’s very economically harmful to be disconnected. That’s the downside

traceroute66 6 hours ago | parent [-]

> It’s very economically harmful to be disconnected. That’s the downside

I mean, sure. But then being at war is also economically harmful. :)

dmix 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This isn't just a wealthy country like the US doing war rations. Iran's economy was already in crisis before the war, where businesses stopped selling products because their currency was fluctuating so much they couldn't set prices without losing money. It means tons of small businesses shutting down and people going hungry. Which puts even more pressure on Iran's social services which are were already in a terrible state. Now the US blockade means significantly less tax money coming into the government.

Their country is very much on the edge of chaos which is why they are brutally controlling their citizens.

amelius 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> But then being at war is also economically harmful.

Especially being at war with practically all the countries around you.

jncfhnb 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I guess. But the framing here is not “clever, innovative IRGC” so much as oppressive regime fucking over it’s people to retain control.

traceroute66 5 hours ago | parent [-]

> But the framing here is not “clever, innovative IRGC”

I am not seeking to frame anything here. Nor am I interested in getting involved in the broader areas on discussion on the subject.

The first few words of my original post made it clear "Looking at it from an alternative angle". An alternative way of wording that would be "devil's advocate".

I am just supplying a perfectly reasonable alternative perspective, I am not asking anyone to agree or disagree with it, I am just making a "food for thought" statement.

jncfhnb 4 hours ago | parent [-]

I don’t see any alternative angle though. Nobody thinks the IRGC is doing this for fun.

overfeed an hour ago | parent [-]

> I don’t see any alternative angle though

I see it, and hadn't fully considered it. Turning off the Internet has more utility than just suppressing the populaces ability to communicate, it also blackholes that compromised mail server used to track the movement of political leaders, any online drop-boxes/Telegram/Whatsapp channels used by cultivated informants/spies are now out of order.

jncfhnb an hour ago | parent [-]

Ehhh I suppose but I think that’s a weak point. The purpose of shutting down the internet is undeniably to prevent the people from coordinating rebellion and the help control the narrative of the war.

payamb 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It’s proven time and time again that Mossad always find a way to infiltrate into even most secure Iranian network. This is mostly done to control the narrative and keep the pro regime supporters morale up.

traceroute66 5 hours ago | parent [-]

> It’s proven time and time again that Mossad always find a way to infiltrate into even most secure Iranian network.

Sure, but why make their life easier ?

Taking your line of argument, you would also need to say "well, the US are going to bomb us anyway. We might as well just post all the GPS coordinates of sensitive sites up on Twitter".